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- From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer)
- Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.market.housing
- Subject: Re: Politeness and Canterbury Apt. Troubles. (Was:Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.081234.19127@netcom.com>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 08:12:34 GMT
- References: <92307.121009CMSTEST@GTRI01.GATECH.EDU> <1992Nov8.103257.29675@netcom.com> <1992Nov9.095634.26620@netcom.com>
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- In article <1992Nov9.095634.26620@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov8.103257.29675@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
- >> I disagree. Politeness goes only so far, if one does not get what
- >>one is entitled to, then, one can become very rude. ...
- >>temper and yelled a lot of swear words at him and accused him of not caring
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >.....
- >>him some more swear words and then left. I wanted to get his boss's name so
- >>that I could try to get him fired. I also felt that he was lying to me about
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>the new tenants. After I got to work, I called a mediation board here in
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>next day, I gave him a check without any extra verbage. The mediation
- >>board sent him a letter. Within a week or two of him receiving the letter,
- >>I noticed that the problems were fixed.
- >> The moral is that if politeness does not work, then use all the
- >>weapons at your disposal to get what one is entitled to.
- >
- >Sorry for the long exerpt, but it was necessary for the context.
- >
- >Reading David's posting I came to the exactly opposite conclusion.
- >Yelling, throwing tantrums, trying to wreck people's lives and other
- >such things don't gain you much leverage with these people and ddo
- >nothing but make them less likely to be eager to work with you later.
-
- I did not tell him that I wanted his boss's name to get him fired.
- He did not know my motives for asking for his boss's name.
-
- Remember that he threatened to evict me before I got really pissed
- and let go of my temper.
-
- I do not really have that much of a problem with his employees. I have
- a problem with him. If he cared for his tenants and made them feel welcome
- to live in this apartment complex, then I would not have a problem with
- him.
-
-
- >Had David skipped yelling and trying to get the manager fired and had
- >gone on directly to calling the local mediation agency, the matter may
- >have gotten resolved much sooner and with fewer bad feelings.
- >
-
- You may be right. I talked to my step-mother, a partner in a
- S.F. law firm, the night that I blew my stack, and she said that I
- had made a mistake. She said that if my manager and I had gone
- to court, that the judge would not have taken too kindly to my outburst.
-
- >As it stands, David should not expect the manager to be very nice to
- >him in the future or get a good reference check when he moves and the
- >next landlord tries to check up on his history as a tenant.
- >
-
- The turnaround in apartment managers here I believe will help me.
- I do not believe that he will be here, the next time that I move.
-
- >In the end, being rude and threatenning is the very last resort and is
- >usually quite unnecessary, since there are usually other ways to achieve
- >what you need without raising anyone's blood pressure.
- >--
- >Oleg Kiselev at home ...use the header to find the path
-
- We will see what happens.
-
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