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- From: ekrem@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Ekrem Saban)
- Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
- Subject: Re: Budhisim / Islam, TRAPPED GIRL
- Message-ID: <721954982@romeo.cs.duke.edu>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 23:03:03 GMT
- References: <30OCT199203491099@romeo.caltech.edu> <1d7p8uINNcgn@aludra.usc.edu>
- Sender: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu
- Organization: Technical University of Vienna
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- In article <1d7p8uINNcgn@aludra.usc.edu> jodar@chaph.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar) writes:
- [...]
-
- >What is her status? Will she be punished in case she decides
- >to change religion? What is her punishment? Is it death?
-
- No.
-
- If a person becomes apostate, (turns away from Islam), they are
- no longer a member of Islamic society. In effect, they have cut
- themselves off from their family. Other than this, and the fact
- that they will no longer recieve any help from Allah (SWT), (and
- will go to Hell), there is no direct punishment in this life.
- (Only Allah (SWT) can punish people for spurning His Grace and
- Mercy to them.)
-
- HOWEVER, if a person turns apostate THREE TIMES, it is the duty
- of all muslims to kill them on sight, as they are renegade.
- (ie. There is no longer any possibility that they will revert
- to Islam.)
- [..]
-
- >I can tell you that in BANGLADESH she is not allowed
- >to convert.
-
- Regardless of what the law is in Bangladesh, the reality is that
- there is no compulsion in religion.
-
- Are you very sure that turning <= 3x from Islam does not result in the
- death penalty in the Shariah? Please answer if you have clear proofs.
-
- "No compulsion in religion" is the rule for NON-MUSLIMS, not for those
- who ARE Muslims, no matter how the person become Muslim: there is no
- difference between Muslims- there are no categories between them,
- except Takwaa (fear of Allah).
-
- >How is this case treated in various law in different ISLAMIC
- >country.
-
- There are currently no 'Islamic Countries.' Not a single one of
- them has an Islamic Government, nor do they enforce the Shariat.
-
- Oh, there are some countries who ARE applying at least parts of it.
- For instance The Islamic Republic of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan.
-
- >Only way she can marry is he converts Voluntarily!!!
-
- That would certainly be the best option.... Both for him and for
- her.
- [...]
- >
- >1) She didnot convert to Islam, She was born in it.
-
- Everybody is born into Islam. Some of us are simply taught
- something else while growing up.
-
- >2) She has no way in which she can become anon-muslim.
-
- According to Islam, you simply make the decision to abandon the
- faith.
-
- I doubt that, brother.
-
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