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- From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
- Subject: Re: Some sad news from Colorado
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.210045.4969@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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- Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
- References: <5220010@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> <1992Nov16.162303.15249@pixel.kodak.com> <1eb8knINNavd@crcnis1.unl.edu>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:00:45 GMT
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- In article <1eb8knINNavd@crcnis1.unl.edu> cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu (cbe) writes:
- >chuck@fourier.ssd.kodak.com (Charles S. Collins 726-9461) writes:
- >>In article <5220010@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
- zampicem@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mike Zampiceni) writes:
- >>By classifying all of organized religion in the same league as organized crime,
- >>you ignore the following groups within organized religions which are working
- >>extremely hard for gay/lesbian/bisexual causes:
- >>More Light Churches (Presbyterian)
- >>Reconciling Congregations (Methodist)
- >>Affirmation (Mormon)
- >>Dignity (Roman Catholic)
- >>Integrity (Episcopal)
- >As far as I can see these are largely *gay* groups within these
- >denominations.
-
- NOT!
-
- The UM "Reconciling Congregations" and Presbyterian "More Light Churches"
- are not organizations of (mostly) gay/lesbian individuals, but organizations
- of entire congregations who support the principle of equality regardless
- of sexual orientation. Like the rest of the church they consist of a majority
- of heterosexuals -- though we attract more out les/bi/gay members.
-
- There are about 60 United Methodist Reconciling Congregations in the USA.
-
- (I participate in one, though I don't call myself a Christian.)
-
- There are similar movements in 3 or 4 other denominations -- we
- are trying to work cooperatively -- "Open Hands" which was the journal
- of the Reconciling Congregations is going to start carrying stuff
- from the other denominations.
-
- In addition, MFSA the Methodist Federation for Social Action, a liberal/
- progressive caucus in the United Methodist Church was quite active
- for homosexual rights at the last general conference. We may not have
- majority support, but we have many friends and allies.
-
- Dignity, Integerity, and Affirmation (United Methodist) are "traditional"
- gay/lesbian caucuses. (I don't know about the Mormon's) These exist in
- nearly every denomination, and vary in the degree to which they stress
- political change in the church vs. support.
-
- I don't claim that everyone has or should have the stomach to work within
- the church, but there are good people and communties of support -- working
- to provide safe space and change the unjust institutions.
-
- --
- Albert Lunde | Interfaith | *Y*Y* "A branch on the
- Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu | Bisexual | *Y* tree of life"
- alunde@nuacvm.bitnet | Feminist |.......|.........................
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