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- From: stewart@geophysics.harvard.edu (Cheryl Stewart)
- Newsgroups: soc.feminism
- Subject: Re: on-line discrimination
- Date: 21 Nov 1992 20:04:22 GMT
- Organization: Dept. of Earth & Planetary Sciences, Harvard University
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- Sender: muffy@mica.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
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- Gender and the Cultural Construction of Computing
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- ..
-
- This is a terrific article, and very accurate in the areas it actually
- investigates.
-
- One area that I find terribly fascinating, that often goes unnoticed,
- however, is in the differences in tasks actually assigned women vs.
- men in their first "programming" job.
-
- I've observed that women often wind up doing the documentation in their
- groups, even if their background is CS or Mathematics or Physics, while
- in the group down the hall, there's also a woman doing the documentation
- who was promoted to the position of technical writer from secretary, has
- a degree in English. It's very strange.
-
- It's like technical writing has become a real women's ghetto in the computer
- world that it seems acceptable to push women into regardless of their bona
- fide qualifications. How much you wanna bet they wind up making the same
- stinking salary after 10 years of that, when the men get much bigger promotions ---
- because they did the "real" work.
-
- So I have a question. How much effort do women have to put into making
- sure they stay in the technology-creating main stream, how much push do
- you feel toward the outer edges in the types of tasks you're encouraged or
- ordered to do in your day-to-day work?
-
- Do you feel that women are shunted into "management" too soon sometimes,
- leaving them without the hard technical experience and accomplishments,
- thus setting them up to be leap-frogged by younger men (whom they will
- no doubt be asked to train?)
-
- The reason I ask is that I wound up being pushed into sort of a
- "user services" role (show users how to log in! do graphics!
- eat their lunch!) when my actual education and experience was
- entirely technical. I really had no interest in "working with
- people" yet because I was female, it was assumed I would be good
- at it! Personally, I can't stand most people, and particularly
- dislike some pimply 22-year-old grad student treating me like
- his unix scullery maid. For instance.
-
- I'm just a misanthropist. It's why I prefer dealing with computers
- than people. But because I'm female, I'm supposed to want to help
- people. Shoot. Whenever *I* wanted the answer to anything,
- I had to RTFM. It was good enough for me, it's good enough for
- them. If I asked a sysadmin a question, I would be patronized
- like some stupid girl that never made it past trigonometry. Oh,
- but if a guy asks me a question, I'm supposed to read the manual
- to him like his momma reading him a bed-time story. Even if 4 new
- machines arrived, the disk just crashed across campus and there's
- a broadcast storm on subnet 32 caused by someone's ancient VMS
- behemoth that they keep around to warm up the basement. Cripes.
-
- It drove me back to graduate school. Thank God.
-
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