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- From: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
- Subject: Academic or Commercial?
- Message-ID: <921120143047.20a05283@FNALD.FNAL.GOV>
- Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller)
- Reply-To: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
- Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:22:46 GMT
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- Jim Carr has put up a nice discussion of the messy world of controversial
- science. The assumption is that P&F are scientists and that we are operating
- under the rules of controversial science. But what if P&F turned commercial
- the day they thought that they had "fusion in a jar"? Then word leaked out.
- How would they react?
-
- In commerce, it is perfectly proper to mislead a competitor. It is more like
- the Manhattan project, where all sorts of fakery was performed to dupe any
- outside government agents into thinking we were doing something other than
- what we were doing. Note that while Fleischmann is a career academic, Pons
- has had commercial training in a family business along with his academic
- career.
-
- It is quite possible that the day that they thought that they had something
- that they started covering their tracks. What an easy thing! Publish a
- rigged radiation curve that could be easily detected. Claim that they see
- neutrons. Any student of science could predict the result. The academic
- community writes them off as fools. While the Jackals howl over the fake
- corpses, they can continue work without competition. Meanwhile, they disclose
- enough information to sponsors who are used to working in secrecy (the
- Japanese) to get all the money they need to continue their work.
-
- I find the recent P&F publications much more consistent with trickery than
- with honest publication. Why spend so much journal space with justification
- of their obscure calorimetry instead of telling us what they do to produce
- "boiling cells"? I assume they are commercial and that they are trying to
- mislead us while publicly showing just enough to reassure their backers.
-
- While the thought of publishing fake data horrifies any academic, when there
- are billions to be gained, some may change their principals. The AIDS test
- comes to mind.
-
- In general, I do not believe that conspiracy is possible. But this is a
- special case. Possibly only two know the secret. My brother has a theory
- gleaned from many years in the early semiconductor work that if three or more
- people know a secret process, that the group will split and form separate
- businesses. But here only two may know, and one at least is old enough to
- likely not have commercial ambition.
-
- But it is a dangerous game. They risk losing all if the secret gets out. My
- understanding of the patent process is that you must "teach" (very special
- patent meaning) and claim to get a patent. So far I have not found much
- "teaching" in the P&F patent applications. It is my understanding that if
- someone else files a patent with the correct "teaching" first, that they will
- get the patent even if P&F know the secret. Withholding "teaching" that you
- know from a patent application, I believe, precludes you claiming that you
- knew it earlier. But this is likely something that patent attorneys could
- argue over for years.
-
- So the most likely thing is that P&F don't know a secret. Else it would be in
- their patent application. But it is remotely possible that they think that
- the secret is so obscure that it is unlikely that others will find it. So
- they withhold it to gain time to tie up the field.
-
- Tom Droege
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