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- From: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
- Subject: NY Times Article
- Message-ID: <921117154250_72240.1256_EHL24-1@CompuServe.COM>
- Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller)
- Reply-To: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
- Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:51:38 GMT
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- To: INTERNET:fusion@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
-
- Busy, busy, busy, but I have to post this tidbit:
-
- There was a pretty good article in this morning's New York Times (11/17/92) in
- the Science Times section, titled "Cold Fusion, Derided in U.S., Is Hot In
- Japan."
-
-
- Steve Jones comments:
-
- "Your public letter resorts to ad hominem attacks, even in its title:
- 'Notorious Steven Jones'. You further state that our efforts to understand
- the basis of the heat demonstrated to the world in Nagoya by Dr. Notoya are
- 'unreasonable, unscientific, sloppy and uncalled for.'"
-
- Hey, give us a break, Steve. Cut out the B.S. If you are going to publish
- letters with snappy titles like "Notorious Notoya..." you are going to get it
- back from me. Like it or not! What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the
- gander too. Don't play high and mighty scientist, please, you are as
- emotionally attached to your views as anyone.
-
- I must say though, you are completely, 100%, inside the bounds of
- reasonableness, fair play and enlightenment compared to Dieter Britz. I
- presume you think that poor old Notoya made a mistake. You do not think she
- committed fraud, right? That is perfectly okay. I thought you were pretty
- sneaky coming down on her like a ton of bricks without warning or consulting.
- You say you talked to her, which is good, but I think a few more minutes might
- have helped. However, it is just politics, hitting someone from behind is
- standard operating procedure, I guess I have done it myself from time to time.
-
- Just remember that when you call someone "notorious," you better not scream
- and complain when I call you the same thing. If you don't like words like
- that, don't use them yourself. As they say in kindergarten (which is where
- this discussion is rapidly headed), "you started it."
-
-
- Thomas H. Kunich comments about Takahashi:
-
- "Steven Jones now tells us that the cells were open and that no _calibration_
- was taken."
-
- I didn't catch that, but if Steve said it, he is wrong again. I have the
- calibration curves from the current run right here in my Takahashi file.
-
- - Jed
-
-