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- From: vnoninski@fscvax.fsc.mass.edu
- Subject: Re: No No Noninski
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:42:35 GMT
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- Dear Colleagues,
-
- On November 11 S.Jones posted a "correction" of Notoya's
- experiment based on the figures of the voltage and current,
- *measured* by his student. On that date S.Jones wrote:
-
- "Cell with Ni cathode AND control cell with resistor,
- initially: 3.4 volts, 0.6 amps".
-
- On November 13 S.Jones restated the same figures for the voltage
- and the current, *measured* by his student:
-
- "The following measurements were recorded ...Control cell,
- initially: 3.4 V at 0.61 A ... The "nuclear" cell with nickel
- anode (?! - remark mine, VN) ran at approximately the same
- voltage and I."
-
- On November 13, I posted a message pointing out that if we are to
- believe the figures S.Jones himself is posting, the *measured*
- input heating power in Notoya's electrolysis cell is lower than
- the measured heating power in the control cell. This should
- lead to a lower temperature in the electrolysis cell than the
- temperature of the control cell. That, however, goes contrary
- to what was reported to have been observed by many in Nagoya.
-
- On November 16, after my criticism, in a third posting S.Jones
- arbitrarily increased the figure of the voltage of Notoya's cell
- from 3.4V to 4.9V, explaining this with an apparently dreamed-up
- increase in voltage to compensate for what he calls "hydrolysis
- loss", having nothing to do with the measurement of his student:
-
- "... the voltage on the "nuclear" cell shown by Notoya in Nagoya
- was INCREASED BY 1.5 V to compensate for the hydrolysis loss. ...
- the voltage on the cell with Ni cathode was 3.4 + 1.5 volts."
-
- It need not be too strongly emphasized, however, that it is the
- actual measurement of the current and voltage which is
- important when determining the input heating power and no
- catching at straws, like the proposed increase by 1.5 V, can
- put more power into the cell.
-
- Obviously, the measured values of Notoya's electrolysis cell
- current and voltage, posted by S.Jones, would cause it to have a
- lower temperature than the control cell. This, as I already
- noted, goes contrary to what was reported to have been observed
- by many in Nagoya.
-
- I again state that the easy explanation S.Jones offers of
- the Notoya puzzle, including the attempt to save his criticism by
- changing the figure of the cell voltage, is in error.
-
- Further, if S.Jones wants to be credible he should not change at
- will, according to his own needs, the figures he is posting.
- Otherwise the discussion with him is useless.
-
- Truly yours,
-
-
- Vesselin Noninski November 16, 1992
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