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- From: logajan@anubis.network.com (John Logajan)
- Subject: Structure
- Message-ID: <9211160416.AA18831@anubis.network.com>
- Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller)
- Reply-To: logajan@anubis.network.com (John Logajan)
- Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:22:59 GMT
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- Tom Droege writes:
- >Thus if Li is absorbed by the cathode (as I suspect) then the fresh
- >electrolyte would make up for the loss.
-
- The Li atom has a diameter of 3.04 A while the Li+ ion has a diameter of 1.2 A.
- The H or D atom has a diameter of 0.74 A while the H+ or D+ (or Li+++) would
- just have the nucleus diameter at about 0.00025 A.
-
- Pd-Pd bond lengths are given as 2.75 A, which equals the Pd diameter.
-
- If we assume Pd atoms are spherical and each touching 12 other Pd atoms in
- the metal crystal packing structure, there exists a "torus" around each
- sphere-sphere contact point which has a clearence of about 0.42 A diameter
- of circular cross-section. It is actually more of a triangular cross-section,
- with sides curved inward. The 0.42 A dimension is for the largest spherical
- object that could pass through the triangular cross-section.
-
- Neither the H (or D) atom or the Li+ ion are small enought to pass through
- the inter-connected 0.42 A "torus tunnels" unmolested. The H is willing to
- give up an electron to become H+, and thus shrink to near nothingness in size,
- but wouldn't the Li+ be much harder to turn into Li++ or Li+++ ?
-
- In fact, if Li+ is going into the cathode, and since it might be fitting into a
- space smaller than what it would like to be in, perhaps it is the Li that is
- causing these Pd cathodes to bend, twist, crack, and pit.
-
- Another question arises as to where the D or Li resides in the Pd crystal.
- The triangular torus cross-section represents the minimum diameter of the
- constriction around the spherical points of contact, but the volume fluctuates
- with a hexagonal pattern around the torus as it plays in and out around the
- spherical surfaces of the neighboring atoms.
-
- There might be more or less "favorable" sites around these hex "nodes",
- but other than that, there is no reason that many more than six D molecules
- could fit in the same torus -- which I believe must be true for loading
- ratios greater than 1.0.
-
- And if it is possible to overload these toruses, then during times of
- disequilibrium, regional overloading conditions may occur.
-
-
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