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- From: Don Palmrose <dpe@inel.gov>
- Subject: Re: Jutland
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:40:32 GMT
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- From Don Palmrose <dpe@inel.gov>
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- In article <BxtKIu.221@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>, mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us writes:
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- >
- > From mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us
- >
- > In article <BxM62I.580@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>, phs172m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen Harker) writes:
- > > From phs172m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen Harker)
- >
- > > s... The British ships all had, and used, director firing, the
- > > Germans did use a better gunnery technique of ladder firing which found the
- > > range very quickly. ...
- >
- > Or these techniques?
- > --
- > (This man's opinions are his own.)
- > From mole-end Mark Terribile
- >
- > mat@mole-end.matawan.nj.us, Somewhere in Matawan, NJ
- >
- >
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- Ladder firing, if my memory is correct, is when the three (or two) gun
- barrels are elevated at different degrees. A gun fire control director will
- give the initial range and elevation orders, but several of the guns have
- their firing angles increased and decreased. The guns are fired and the shot
- locations are spotted. With three or four main gun mounts with 2 or
- 3 barrels each, one could set up six to twelve differnt angle shots at once.
- Hopefully, each additional salvo will reduce the overall angle differences.
-
- Note this implies that the enemy ship had been bracked i.e. a shot short, a
- near miss or hit, and another on the far side of the ship. Then the
- difference between each barrel would be slightly off the angle that "found
- the target". This way if the enemy ship is moving to get out of being hit,
- one of the off-angled barrels will begin to score hits, the firing ship would
- notice and make the necessary adjustments. It would also show any
- inaccuracies in the firing ship's range and elevation calculations.
-
- Using a director firing method means computing an angle and distance to fire,
- shoot the guns, see where they land, and then correct from those shots to
- bring the next rounds on target. But here one is trying to be very precise by
- noticing how far off the solution is and using that as a correction value for
- the follow-on salvoes. One also uses the range finder in order to determine
- how far to adjust the next shots.
-
- Thus there is a tendency to take a longer time to ensure the distance spotted
- are correct and to "feed" this info into your fire control solution. While
- the ladder method relies only on calculating the current range and elevation
- letting the spread of the salvo to make up for any calculational errors.
-
- Don Palmrose
- "I'd rather not serve on a ship designed to sink...."
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