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- From: eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
- Subject: Re: Discussion Of Shallow Water ASW
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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:24:49 GMT
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- From eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
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- >From Paul Podvig <ppl@athena.mit.edu>
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- >My understanding is that there are no convergence zones in shallow water.
- >Long towed array is useful when you can deploy it. Given that length of
- >the thing is up to 2 miles, I doubt if you can operate it in shallow water
- >(though surface ships probably could deploy it with little difficulty).
-
- As this thread started out about swedish asw I'd like to add a comment about
- towed arrays in coastal waters. A great part of the ASW is done in the
- archipelago. There's no possibility of using a 2 mile array. It would end up
- wound round some skerry or another. I doubt there's 2 miles of open water in a
- straight line.
-
- >>Some forms of active sonar do very well in shallow water (medium freq. hull
- >>mount I think). Again a lot would depend on the geography. It is probably
- >>a lot easier to find a submarine in the perisan gulf than off the coast of
- >>Norway.
-
- >Agree. Though you are still going to have a lot of problems with reflections
- >from the bottom and the surface. And again, if you are on submarine, you
- >wouldn't like to use your active sonar--you will be detected first.
-
- One problem in the archipelago is that the sub can lay still on the bottom,
- which makes it very hard to classify the echo as a sub rather than say a
- underwater crag. Also, there's lot of pits and chasms where the sub can go down
- to the bottom making it even harder to find.
-
-
- --
- Erik Svensson Research Officer
- Guided Weapons Division National Defense Research Establishment (FOA)
- Stockholm Sweden
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