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- From: wwo@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Thomas Schoene)
- Subject: Re: New Bombers (was Reorganizing the DoD (was New Carrier Plan))
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- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:39:25 GMT
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- From wwo@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Thomas Schoene)
-
- In article <BxEvtD.13F@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>,
- Daniel F Boyd <boyd@acsu.buffalo.edu> writes:
- >
- > From Daniel F Boyd <boyd@acsu.buffalo.edu>
- >
- > In article <Bx97op.2DM@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>
- > ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
- >> What about using an existing commercial or military transport
- >> airframe as a basis for a new bomber? What about something based on
- >> the 767, or a 747 variant for instance?
- >
- > The wing spar is in the way. There is no place to put the bomb bay
- > because both these aircraft are low-winged, with the wing going
- > underneath the fuselage. This puts the wing spar right where you want
- > to put the bomb bay.
- >
- > Also, 747s and 767s are designed to carry the weight of people
- > distributed throughout the cabin, and they're not designed for the
- > stresses you would get when you let go of the bombs -- the plane loses
- > a lot of weight in a hurry, and 7X7s don't do that.
- Even more problematic: 7X7's (and their MD and Airbus counterparts) aren't
- designed with low altitude, high speed flight in mind. The airframe isn't
- designed for it, nor is the airframe designed with any radar minimizing
- features, etc, et multiple cetera.
-
- >
- >> Would this cost less?
- >
- > Probably not enough less to make it worth it. If the Air Force needs
- > a carpet-bombing plane then they'll ask for one -- and it will
- > probably have efficient turbofan engines and so on that Boeing learned
- > how to build/use when making the 767, a more efficient wing, all sorts
- > of things. But it won't be the same plane, because the basic airframe
- > of a bomber and a transport have different needs.
- >
- Of course the 747 was seriously proposed as a cruise missile carrier sometime
- in the '70s I think. The proposal had 100+ ALCMs launched through a hatch at
- the rear of the airframe. In the event, old B-52s were already on hand so they
- were used instead (with fewer ALCMs but 100+ per aicraft would have been a
- little like putting all of one's eggs in one basket anyway.)
-
- >[commets on the relative utility of various bombers deleted]
- --
- Tom Schoene
- wwo@cornella.cit.cornell.edu -or- wwo@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
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