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- From: fateman@peoplesparc.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Fateman)
- Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic
- Subject: Re: Using CAS in science classes (was: Teaching CS to science students (was: The Real Meaning of Efficiency?))
- Date: 24 Nov 1992 01:03:18 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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- I was taught to use a slide-rule in chemistry. Slide-rules differ
- from calculators and lap-tops in not telling you where the decimal
- point is. If you have no idea whether the answer is 3*10^6 or 3*10^7 or
- even 3*10^(-7), you can't make much use of the slide-rule.
-
- The intellectually correct posture that allows one to promote
- the use by elementary school students of four-function
- calculators for doing arithmetic, is that what should be taught
- is Approximation. That is, the student should realize that,
- regardless of the result of his/her machine computation, the
- weight of a golf ball is not a kilogram, and the height of
- the Sears Tower is not 2 miles. Unfortunately, most elementary
- school teachers are innumerate (illiterate wrt numbers).
-
- I don't know what exactly the equivalent skill would be for a computational
- physicist (not being one) but I suspect it is includes
- .. the answer must have the right dimensions
- .. the answer must have the right behavior at special points (say t-> infinity)
- .. the computational method, when applied to (simple) problems for which there
- known solutions, must produce those known solutions.
-
- Unfortunately, what most of us learned was
- .. (in calculus) Every problem has a solution in closed form in terms of
- elementary functions, or you wouldn't be asked to do it.
- .. the solution method can be found in the just previous chapter.
- .. If the answer seems to require a lot of algebra you must have missed
- some simplifying trick.
-
- Too bad. The computer algebra system in a laptop will not know any
- of these heuristics (maybe because they are false in general).
-
- Perhaps the point is to make sure that the CAS are used for extending
- the reach of computational science/education, and engineering
- applications, and not merely for dulling our senses by making short
- work of trivial problems.
-
- Students trained by Sesame Street already think that all problems can
- be solved in 2 or 3 minutes.
-
- Unfortunately, most college math/science teachers are not really
- grounded in computation of the symbolic sort. Once you get beyond graphing
- (something done by some hand-held calculators), computation becomes
- magic, albeit unreliable magic. Some CAS confirm this impression.
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- Richard J. Fateman
- fateman@cs.berkeley.edu 510 642-1879
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