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- From: daniel@redwood.ppc.ubc.ca (Daniel Ouellet)
- Newsgroups: sci.engr.control,sci.engr.mech,sci.physics,sci.engr.civil
- Subject: Re: factory noise elimination?!
- Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:42:16 GMT
- Organization: University of B.C. Pulp & Paper Centre
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- In article <22NOV92211553@fnalp.fnal.gov>, boswell@fnalp.fnal.gov (Chris Boswell JHU CDF (708)840-3638) writes:
- |> meyers@lorenz.ocean.fsu.edu (Steve Meyers) writes...
- |> >announced an ability to reduce or eliminate noise associated with
- |> >industrial production with a technique that "uses electricity".
- |> >I guess their claim is they can make a factory quiet. Has anyone
- |> >heard about this? Is it true?
- |> Yes, this is true. Sound waves are waves, and
- |> can be interfered with, both constructively and destructively.
- |> If I have a speaker system such that sound waves are exactly
- |> out of phase with the factory motor, the sound waves are cancelled.
- |> You can either do this right in front of your ear, or on a surface
- |> around the noisy motor. To do it well with today's audio technology,
- |> the motor has to have a very periodic sound signature,
- |> which most motors do.
- |> I am afraid I cannot find the articles I have about it,
- |> but search the periodical guide in a library for
- |> active noise elimination or electronic mufflers.
-
- While active noise control is feasible in theory, it is in practice very difficult
- to implement in situations where the sound field is complex. In most industrial
- environments, it is difficult to characterize the sound field precisely because
- sources have a complex radiation pattern and you have to deal with reflexions
- and diffusion due to obstacles, etc, etc,etc.
-
- The idea to cancel the noise "right in front of your ear" is also nice in theory
- but pretty hard to realize in practice. The sensitivity of the ear varies depending
- on the direction from which the noise is coming. Its frequency response is not
- uniform and varies between individuals. The ear has a "protection mechanism"
- known as the acoustic reflex, which changes its acoustic impedance under
- prolonged noise exposure. Also consider that if you want to cancel out a wave
- that will hit the ear, you have to detect and characterize this wave before it
- reaches the ear, whatever the direction it is coming from.
-
- I could go on and on, but I think this is enough to make my point. The problem
- is a very complex one, and this thing is frequently brought up as a sensational
- technique, but we are far from being able to apply it on a large scale basis to
- industrial noise problems. I have heard of a few applications in simple cases
- (not factories) but I cannot say if these were only rumors. I have not yet seen
- a paper in a well recognized acoustics journal describing a commercial
- application. I would suggest you post to alt.sci.physics.acoustics if you want
- to get more feedback on this. There was a thread on this subject some time
- ago.
-
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