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- From: aq456@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terry Quinn)
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- Subject: Information on Hi8 and SVHS tape quality/dropouts
- Date: 21 Nov 1992 19:05:18 GMT
- Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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- About a week ago I spoke to one of the experts at Sony's Recording
- Media office on video tape. I'll post some information now, even
- though I am expecting some more literature to come from them
- later.
-
- My questions were centered around Hi8 metal tapes and dropout
- tendency, but covered some other areas.
-
- Metal Particle tape has the metal particles attached to the
- carrier film with a binder.
-
- Metal Evaporative Tape has higher signal to noise ratio, obtained
- because the particles are standing on end instead of laying down.
- It is manufactured by melting the particles into the base film,
- instead of using a binder. The biggest problem with ME is that
- the early Hi8 transport systems were harsh on ME, and tended to
- wear off the particles. Some of the newest systems (EVO9850
- professional system, for example, have gentler transports that are
- more compatible with ME).
-
- As the metal tapes were originally developed, they were concerned
- about accelerated aging (in the vernacular, rust) as compared to
- oxide tapes. They have since found that they hold up better than
- standard or even "souped up" standard (like SVHS) tapes, over the
- long term. Their tests have simulated over 10 years life.
-
- I asked if there was an explanation for why there seems to be less
- observed problems on dropouts with Hi8 than in the past (based on
- some recent posts on the net). He said that there have been
- continuous improvements and cited two. First, they have improved
- the tape lubricant which results in it running through the
- player/recorder mechanisms smoother and with less friction. This
- helps to prevent the loss of metal particles, which of course
- could result in dropouts.
-
- The other thing is that they have changed the binder system (I
- assume on the MP only) going to a "cross linked" binder. This not
- only binds the particles to the substrate, but also to other
- surrounding particles, which again reduces the chance for
- particles to come off the tape. These types of changes were
- introduced in the professional line in July, not sure whether they
- went into the consumer line...originally there was not a
- significant difference between the consumer and professional lines
- but now they are separate.
-
- As far as the dropouts themselves, they define a dropout as a
- temporary loss of signal that exceeds 15 microseconds. He agrees
- that the more serious ones display as a sparkle, and you would be
- unlikely to see a 15 microsecond dropout (too short). The
- specification for initial dropout tendency (number of 15 usec
- drops per minute) is about 5 for both Hi8 and SVHS in Sony's
- professional line. He dropped a plug, noting that 3M Hi8 tape is
- rated at 35 per minute, much worse. These ratings are for the
- professional line.
-
- He noted that even though SVHS is wider than 8 mm, it should not
- hold up any better in multipass situations (will wear out just as
- fast as Hi8).
-
- He said that the Hi8 has "far superior" signal quality, that is
- very evident in multi-generation dubs. While a reasonable dub can
- be made from Hi8 to SVHS, a second dub to SVHS will noticeably
- degrade, whereas going Hi8-->Hi8-->Hi8 will be better.
-
- Care of Hi8 is the major difference that he sees, because dust
- particles will interfere more than with S-VHS. You need to be
- more careful. Always keep the tape in the camera, deck, or in its
- storage case (don't leave it out on the table). Dust will be more
- of a problem. Use clean equipment, and keep your editing area
- clean.
-
- He noted that it is adviseable to fast forward and rewide all
- archived tapes (of any type) once per year. This retensions the
- tape and solves problems that otherwise would occur due to just
- gravity acting on the tapes. He says that all professional
- production facilities do this at least every two years.
-
-
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- Terry Quinn
- Germantown Hills, IL
- tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
- aq456@cleveland.freenet.edu
-