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- From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
- Subject: Re: Failure of Proposition 156
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.182041.1287@ntmtv>
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- References: <1992Nov14.084038.4110@s1.gov> <1992Nov17.025229.13342@ntmtv> <1992Nov17.233948.12012@s1.gov>
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:20:41 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.233948.12012@s1.gov>, lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
- |> In article <1992Nov17.025229.13342@ntmtv> adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:
- |> >Hurry up and wait for those new stations. As usual, CalTrans (Division
- |> >of Rail) seems to be moving very slowly on these... Fremont-Centerville
- |> >station should open for service around Sept/Oct '93.
- |>
- |> It takes over a _year_ just to build an Amshack?
-
- The plan is to restore the historic Fremont-Centerville train station.
- They will be moving it from the south to the north side of the tracks
- where the platform and landscaped parking lot will be. However, the
- station can't be moved until the state releases the funds for the
- architect to draw up the exact siting details and for the new foundation
- to be built. This is all just so much bureaucratic red tape... The
- project is relatively simple and wouldn't take more than a couple of
- months if someone set their mind to it.
-
-
- |> >Then you would have known to attend our (TRACs) annual conference
- |> >last weekend in Sacramento. This year the primary focus was high
- |> >speed rail in California. We had a couple of excellent guest speakers
- |> >associated with TGV in France. ...
- |>
- |> What went on? Any details?
-
- Going over the details is tiresome/tedious. Some of the subjects covered
- at the all-day conference were: 156 failure analysis, a review of CA rail-
- related legislation for the year, high-speed rail for California panel
- discussion with the UC Berkeley study team that produced the CalSpeed
- report and other experts, LA's Metrolink, upgrading CalTrain to a real
- transit-level service, low-floor light rail equipment, prosepects of
- passenger rail service on the Bay Area-Santa Rosa-Eureka corridor, TGV
- equipment review with Andre Hut of GEC Alsthom, and high-speed rail
- for California keynote speaker Denis Doute who is with TGV and is heavily
- involved in the Texas effort. Why not just join the group and see if
- the next newsletter covers some of what went on? (It usually does since
- only a fraction of TRAC's membership makes it to the annual conference.)
-
-
- |> TGV's would certainly be nice to have, but they would require new track
- |> to run at their cruising speed.
-
- Yes and yes.
-
- |> The Central Valley itself is fairly easy; a high-speed line can be
- |> built right next to the SP line between Bakersfield and Sacramento,
- |> or the SP line itself can be taken over, with SP's trains being
- |> shifted to the ATSF line.
-
- The best plan according to the IURD CalSpeed alignment study is to
- construct an entirely new right of way that would pass somewhat to
- the east of Fresno and Bakersfield. The idea would be to *avoid*
- populated areas so as to keep as much of the line as possible at
- high-speed (200mph) running. The initial trunk-line would connect
- San Francisco and Los Angeles roughly via San Jose, Gilroy, Pacheco
- Pass, Los Banos, Fresno, Bakersfield, and then via a new mountain
- crossing into the LA basin parallel to I-5. Sacramento service
- would branch off the trunk-line in the valley somewhere between
- Fresno and Los Banos and would be something like $2 or $3 billion
- more.
-
-
- |> But new lines would have to be built to the Bay Area and the LA basin,
- |> to get any worthwhile speed, and that will take a _lot_ of $'s.
-
- Right. According the the study, the whole project will cost $9 billion.
-
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