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- From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
- Subject: Re: Vranich on Texas High-Speed Rail
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:30:35 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.175553.19500@ntmtv> adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:
- : Here is a press release from Joseph Vranich that I found posted
- : on rec.railroad. ...
-
- : "Southwest Airlines owes an apology to the people of Texas,
- : particularly innocent farmers who have been unjustly alarmed, for its
- : malicious campaign," said Vranich.
-
- : Vranich issued a two-pronged defense of high-speed rail. One part
- : consists of a lengthy research document, "An Expose of Southwest
- : Airlines' Cunning Deceptions about High-Speed Rail," which refutes,
- : point by point, charges that the airline has made.
-
- It would be interesting to see what he had had to say there.
-
- I've read his book _Supertrains_, and he reports some details
- about Southwest Airlines' campaign against the Texas TGV.
-
- The airline's chairman, Herb Kelleher, had ridiculed the
- proposed train as a "Conestoga wagon with lights", for example. A 200
- mph train is about 1/3 as fast as a typical airliner (about 500-600
- mph), and a train can go into a city center, while most airliners
- cannot.
-
- Kelleher also argued that high-speed rail is "arguably less
- safe" than aviation, something contrary to the experience had with
- existing high-speed rail systems like the TGV and the Japanese Bullet
- Trains.
-
- When that didn't work, he tried to suggest that maglev might
- make steel-wheel trains obsolete. However, maglev is still in no shape
- to build long-distance lines with.
-
- If the rest of his maneuvers failed, he threatened to move the
- headquarters of his airline out of Dallas, which sounds like a temper
- tantrum more than anything else.
-
- : The other is a piece of hypothetical legislation, "the Texas
- : Air-Rail Equity Act." If enacted, the bill would put aviation and
- : high-speed rail on an equal footing.
-
- That would be fun to see also.
-
- : "Everyone would be shocked if Texas passed a law putting Southwest
- : Airlines under the same laws as high-speed rail," Vranich said.
- : "Southwest Airlines would be forced to pay franchise fees to operate
- : in the state, Texas airports could not sell tax-exempt bonds,
- : airports would be privatized and forced to pay property taxes, and
- : inducements that lure industry to airports would be eliminated."
-
- If that was done, then the airline business would sink like a
- stone. Consider that in a recent year, the US airline industry earned
- $1 billion, while air traffic control cost $3 billion (source: Joseph
- Vranich) [Unless technologies or business practices drastically
- differ, I'm sure that similar numbers can be found for elsewhere in
- the world] If one counted up other costs, then the same story might be
- told there also.
-
- Despite all the flak that Amtrak gets about being subsidized
- (that seems to be one of its best known features, it seems), airlines
- are subsidized to a much greater degree. Joseph Vranich calls the
- numerous airline subsidies a "Gravy Plane", which he documents in gory
- detail.
-
- But one thing that has gotten in the way of pointing out
- airline subsidies is almost certainly the fact that those in
- policymaking positions -- corporate executives, political leaders,
- etc. -- are typically rather frequent fliers, and would be embarrassed
- to discover what their favorite means of long-distance transportation
- depends on.
-
- : He disagreed with legislators who want to restrict the use of
- : eminent domain for high-speed rail and to put the fledgling train
- : operation under the regulation of the Texas Railroad Commission.
- : "Under my proposed bill, the right to use eminent domain to obtain
- : land for airports also would disappear and Southwest Airlines would
- : also come under the regulatory authority of the Texas Railroad
- : Commission." Vranich added: "Southwest Airlines claims it wants a
- : level playing field with high-speed rail. I say, pass this bill that
- : would create that level playing field and watch them scream as their
- : favored treatment, special privileges and taxpayer-financed subsidies
- : disappear."
-
- : Most offensive of all, he said, is Southwest's campaign to incite
- : Texas citizens to alarm against the high-speed plan by supplying them
- : with false material. Texas farmers concerned about their
- : livelihoods, Vranich noted, haven't been told that farmers elsewhere
- : in the United States support high-speed rail as an alternative to
- : land-gobbling airports and interstate-type highways with
- : 300-foot-wide rights-of-way.
-
- I may add that high-speed train tracks usually occupy as much
- land as a two-lane road, and some possible high-speed lines are
- upgrades of existing rail lines.
-
- : "Exaggerated claims about train noise have needlessly worried
- : farmers," said Vranich. "I traveled throughout Europe two months
- : ago. On every trip, I watched cattle, horses, sheep, goats and hogs.
- : What were they doing? They were eating, standing or sleeping near
- : the tracks. Not one time did I observe any animals becoming
- : 'spooked' in any way. This was true in England, France, Spain,
- : Italy, Switzerland and Germany where I traveled at speeds up to 187
- : mph."
-
- It would be interesting to stand near a TGV going at full
- speed to see what it sounds like. There are some in this newsgroup
- who've had that experience and noticed not much sound at all.
-
- : Vranich, who on April 12, 1988, briefed Southwest Airlines
- : Chairman Herb Kelleher on how to lobby for more aviation subsidies,
- : sharply criticized Southwest for spreading false claims about the
- : safety record for highspeed rail.
-
- He actually _did_ that? Is he embarrassed about it?
-
- : "In the last 28 years, Japanese, French and German high-speed
- : trains have carried more than 3 billion passengers without a single
- : passenger fatality," he said. "If we made transportation decisions
- : based on safety alone, Texas would have high-speed rail up and
- : running."
-
- Not quite correct. A truck once fell onto a Bullet Train line,
- causing some deaths. And a terrorist bomb once blew up in a TGV car.
- But aside from that, Vranich is essentially correct.
-
- : He outlined the trend of many leaders in aviation, who have begun
- : to support high-speed rail as an attractive way to relieve airport
- : congestion and as an alternative to flying expensive jets in
- : short-haul markets. Lufthansa and Alitalia airlines operate trains
- : in Germany and Italy, and a British airline is considering a similar
- : program.
-
- It would be interesting to see how much of the short-haul
- flights the trains are equivalent to, what fraction of the total.
-
- : Both USAir and Federal Express top executives have spoken in favor
- : of high-speed rail, as have airport managers in Orlando, Los Angeles,
- : Pittsburgh and New York. In fact, Vranich noted that Southwest
- : Airlines' former president, Howard Putnam, believes the carrier
- : should be cooperating with, not opposing, the proposed Texas rail
- : system.
-
- It is interesting that the airline officials the most
- interested in high-speed rail are those in airlines with a lot of
- long-distance business. I guess they feel that they have less to lose
- by shifting a lot of their shorter-distance business over to rail. And
- they would certainly gain in airport access by increasing passenger
- rail service to airports.
-
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