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- From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
- Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
- Subject: Re: Basic Advice
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.222158.17795@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 22:21:58 GMT
- Article-I.D.: hpcvaac.1992Nov16.222158.17795
- References: <694@zds-ux.UUCP>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
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- bjstaff@zds-ux.UUCP (Brad Staff) writes:
- : Bryan D. Boyle writes:
- : >>white fibreglass (shakespeare also makes great fishing rods-really!)
- : >>coaxial, no radials, about 18' total length. so-239 at one end,
- : >>and a metal "mounting area" at the lower end. Rated to handle only
- : >>about 25W, and exhibits reasonable vswr over the 40 channels-not the
- : >>most broadband antenna, but a 20-year-old design that works reasonably
- : >>well..
- :
- : Bill Nelson writes:
- : >If it has no ground radials, then it is sensitive to mounting height.
- : >The radiation impedance changes drastically, from a few ohms to several
- : >hundred ohms.
- : >
- : >That would be one way of minimizing the SWR - mount it at the height that
- : >gives the best SWR at midband.
- : >
- : >I personally would use an antenna with radials, or mount the antenna at
- : >ground level and install my own radial system.
- :
- : Sounds like it might be a vertical half-wave dipole. Disclaimer: I have
- : never owned one of these, but I do own a vertical quarter-wave monopole.
- : :-)
-
- Nope. It may be a half-wave vertical, but it is not a half wave dipole.
- It is end fed, not fed in the middle. Look at the sensitivity of end
- fed antennas, you will see that it is high for all lengths.
-
- : Vertical half-wave dipoles aren't supposed to be terribly sensitive to
- : height above the ground. On page 3-11 of The ARRL Antenna Book (16th
- : Edition), there is a graph of "Height of center of vertical half-wave in
- : wavelengths" vs. "Radiation resistance in ohms". Here are some numbers
- : derived from that graph:
- :
- : .25 wavelengths ~100 ohms
- : .35 wavelengths ~80 ohms
- : .45 wavelengths ~70 ohms
- : .55 wavelengths ~70 ohms
- : .65 wavelengths ~73 ohms
- : .75 wavelengths ~75 ohms
-
- Fine - but it is not a dipole.
-
- : I'll have to take a look at the effect of using radials on a vertical
- : half-wave dipole.
-
- You don't need radials with a dipole antenna. It would only hurt the
- performance.
-
- Bill
-