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- Subject: Tangent Re: tonality and modern music
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.172810.17665@husc3.harvard.edu>
- From: elkies@ramanujan.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies)
- Date: 21 Nov 92 17:28:09 EST
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- In article <1992Nov21.023751.25749@nuscc.nus.sg>
- smoliar@iss.nus.sg (Stephen Smoliar) writes:
- >I think the operative concept in the above discussion is "experiment." The
- >issue is not that of process versus product but rather the current social
- >obsession that all activity must result in a product to be held up for public
- >assessment. Beethoven knew better than to publish his sketchbooks, let alone
- >all those fruits of his improvisation. He had the liberty to experiment with
- >his material without being accountable for his every action. Today it seems
- >as if composers no longer have that luxury. Experiments are all right as long
- >as the results are successful; but if the results are always successful, they
- >are not experiments any more, are they? [...]
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- I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Are modern composers obliged,
- as Beethoven wasn't, to publish sketchbooks, improvisations, or other
- experiments? Or do these composers no longer "know better" than to do this?
- [At least Beethoven did not *destroy* his sketches as was Brahms' practice...]
-
- --Noam D. Elkies (elkies@zariski.harvard.edu)
- Dept. of Mathematics, Harvard University
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