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- From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
- Subject: Re: PHYSICS OF STEERING (long) (was Re: What would you ride on a long...)
- In-Reply-To: crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov24.023203.9105@tcsi.com>
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- References: <BxxoMr.F6@news.iastate.edu> <ZOWIE.92Nov18210725@daedalus.stanford.edu> <By1GoI.MAz@news.iastate.edu> <1992Nov23.192440.11596@spdc.ti.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:32:03 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov23.192440.11596@spdc.ti.com>, crowder@epcot (Mark Crowder) writes:
-
- > Get a ruler (or some rather long, flat, uniform object) and find a
- >smooth surface (one that the ruler will slide easily on). Place your
- >finger near one end of the ruler and give it a quick side-ways
- >(perpendicular to its length) push. Note two things. 1) It does *not*
- >rotate about its cm *while* you are pushing it -- it rotates about a
- >point 2/3 of its length away from the end you pushed. 2) It *does*
- >rotate about its cm after you stop pushing it. To find out why this
- >happens, look up "moment of inertia" in your favorite physics text.
- > The contact patch on the front tire of a motorcycle applies this type
- >of tourque about the longitudinal axis of the bike during a turn
- >transition. Unless the front wheel loses traction, condition "1)" above
- >always applies in the case of motorcycle (i.e. the road never 'lets
- >go'). The point of this is (you *knew* there was a point , right?) that
- >This effect will tend to make the bike roll about a point *above* its
- >cm. Ponder that for a while.
-
- True. Almost.
-
- To look at it another way, the force generated by the tires can be
- resolved into a force acting through the cm and a pure moment. The
- moment causes the body to rotate about the cm. The force acting
- through the cm accelerates the cm in the direction the wheels are
- steered. For a motorcycle you must also take into account the
- contribution of gyroscopic precession which would tend to counteract
- the effects of the force, thereby rendering the Jedi helpless.
-
- You must also take into account the acceleration of the cm due to gravity
- made significent by the displacement of the contact patch due to trail
- and the increasing lean angle. You will find that the instanteanous
- roll center is not on the bike centerline and often not even on the
- bike. It will probably be somewhere to the side of the bike on the
- outside of the turn you are hoping to make.
-
- --
- - )V(ark)< FZR400 Pilot / ZX900 Payload / RD400 Mechanic DoD #400
- You're about to see 5 semesters of Mechanical Engr FLY into action.
-