home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
- Path: sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!news.netmbx.de!netmbx!fischer
- From: fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
- Subject: Re: 2-strokes (was: Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
- Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:57:02 GMT
- Message-ID: <MH28LCQ@netmbx.netmbx.de>
- References: <1992Nov12.222934.2542@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> <BxnuyM.Eo3@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <92Nov18.153919.18520@acs.ucalgary.ca>
- Lines: 58
-
- In article <92Nov18.153919.18520@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
- >In article <BxnuyM.Eo3@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
- >>In <1992Nov12.222934.2542@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:
- >>>In article <1992Nov12.215739.10125@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
- >>>> In article <1992Nov11.172357.2534@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
- >>> Interesting... shows you what I know about 2-strokes. I would sure
- >>>like to see a current-tech streetable 2-stroke. Sheah, good luck. *sigh*
-
- What about a '92 TZR250 and a '92 NSR250 and a '92 RGV250? The Yamaha and
- the Honda are absolut current-tech. GP replicas.
-
- >> The Canadian spec. RZ350 from about 85 on (full fairing) is pretty
- >>damn current considering there were no significant design changes made.
- >>It produces a claimed 55 HP through different ignition, barrels, and
- >>crank than US version. I beleive it weighs in at 380 lbs wet. Shows what
- >>a lack of weight can do for a bike. Had Yamaha put a truly sophisticated
- >>suspension on it (TZR250,NS400) they'd still be making them today.
- >They are still making them today...Or at least they are still
- >selling brand new ones in Yamaha dealerships in Canada.
- >I own one.
-
- Actually what you get are left-over models. They stopped making them in
- 1990. In spring 1992 they started making them again for the Brazilian
- market! A bit different fairing (and only full fairing available) but
- engine & frame like the 1990 model.
-
- >The suspension is actually pretty good, and by upgrading the
- >shock, it can be made better. The real problem with the RZ is
- >that the frame and steering geometry are simply too conservative
- >to make full use of today's tires.
-
- Yes, hard riding drags the exhaust pipes on the ground :-( I could go
- faster without the pipes in the way with my Metzler ME1 CompK.
-
- >The RZ is a first rate motorcycle, fast, sweet handling, light
- >and pretty...
- You're right. I absolutly love mine.
-
- >I would be willing to guess that a totally reworked RZ350,
- >fresh from the drafting table, would run circles around anything
- >up to a GSXR750. The weight advantage of the simple motor,
- >the compact nature of the engine, and the fact that you get twice
- >as many power strokes (bang whoosh bang whoosh, as opposed to
- >bang whoosh compress bang whoosh compress bang), make it an
- >inherently superior design for power production.
-
- Actually it ain't to hard to ride faster than a GSXR750. Take a CBR600F2
- to compare it. They are better than those GSXR750 and unfortunately
- faster in corners than my RZ due to the exhaust dragging problem.
-
-
- The RZ is a superbike. When I have enough money I would buy a '93 TZR250
- with catalytic converter and still around 65 hp (DIN hp).
-
- -Axel
- --
- fischer@netmbx.de DoD #0228
- GSXR1100 - RD350LCN - XR250R
-