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- Rec.Models.Rockets FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions): Part 4 of 5
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- Last Modified: 20 Nov 1992
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- *** PART 4: PAYLOADS
-
- [Note: This part of the FAQ is maintained by Jack Hagerty (jack@rml.com)
- Any additions or corrections should be sent to that address]
-
-
- Introduction
-
- Flying sport rockets is fun. Flying competition rockets
- can be exciting in the heat of battle. Scale models (my favorite) can
- be as much of a challenge to research and build as they are to fly.
- But if you want to do something "real" with your rocket, you've got
- to fly a payload. This is also a good response to the perpetual
- question from the the great unwashed masses "so, what's it do?"
-
- I've organized this section into the following topics (suggestions for
- expansion into other topics gladly accepted):
-
- 4.1 Camera Payloads
- 4.1.1 Commercial Cameras
- 4.1.2 Homebrew cameras
- 4.1.3 Video
- 4.2 Data Gathering Payloads
- 4.2.1 Transmitter
- 4.2.2 Data logging
- 4.2.3 Sample collection
- 4.3 Bio-payloads
- 4.4 Novelty Payloads
- 4.4.1 Contest payloads
- 4.4.2 Ejecting payloads
-
- 4.1 Camera Payloads - Cameras are the most often flown payloads (after eggs
- and bugs :-) because they hit us where we live. No other payload lets us
- see the flight from our rocket's point of view. The intensity of interest
- in camera payloads can be seen by how early they were flown: Goddard flew
- them, the VfR (the German rocket society which gave Von Braun his start)
- flew them and, of course, dozens of post war sounding rockets carried
- camera payloads.
-
- Some of the products and techniques that have been tried and/or are still
- available are:
-
- 4.1.1 Commercial Cameras (chronological order):
-
- Camroc - The first purpose-designed rocket camera. Designed by Estes and
- sold from 1965 to 1974. A marvel of simplicity, it was patterned after
- several homebrew cameras of the early '60s (see 4.1.2). It was simply a
- cylindrical body that held the film topped by a hemispherical nose that
- was flattened off to accept the optical window which the forward facing
- lens looked through. One shot per flight on "Astropan 400" (Kodak Tri-X)
- cut into a 1 1/2" dia. round negative. Easy to process at home. The film
- had to be push processed to 1200 ASA (officially, though most home
- developers went to 1600). Extremely valuable on the collector market.
- [Note: Don't write me asking how much your old Camroc's worth. Bob
- Sanford (72020.371@compuserve.com) tracks those sorts of things - JH]
-
- Greg Smith (smith@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu) describes some of the various hacks
- of the Camroc: "At one time there were quite a few homebrew modifications to
- the Camroc floating around. Most popular was substituting a 3-element glass
- lens from Edmund Scientific for the standard plastic lens; it gave much
- sharper and better color-corrected results. I have also seen a wide-angle
- variation with yet another Edmund lens that required cutting the forward body
- section of the Camroc down to a much shorter length. As someone pointed out
- at the time, the Camroc lens was a short telephoto relative to its film
- format. It doesn't make sense to send a rocket up as high as possible and
- then use a telephoto lens to get a SMALLER angle of view; it's a wide angle
- you really want, so you can get more in the picture from a lower, easier-to-
- aim flight with a smaller motor and less risk of losing the camera. Several
- people flew color slide film in the Camroc, but high-speed color films were
- pretty terrible at the time; the ASA 1600 print films available today would
- probably work very well in it."
-
- Cineroc - Estes' second foray into camera payloads, the Cineroc was *much*
- more sophisticated than the Camroc. This was a full bore 8mm movie camera
- crammed into a package not much bigger than it's predecessor (although more
- aerodynamic). Introduced with much fanfare in 1969, it lasted only 5 years
- before its plug was pulled in 1974. The lens looked aft via a hooded mirror
- and it shot ~15 sec worth of flight time at 2X speed (30 sec projection
- time). At least that's what the spec says. In reality, most Cinerocs ran in
- the 18 - 20 fps range which is more-or-less normal speed. The film was a
- Kodak ASA 160 instrumentation film on a polyester base which was probably
- adopted because it was the only daylight-balanced Super 8 film available.
- The Cineroc used a custom film cartridge meaning that you either used the
- Estes processing service or went to a custom lab. It could be developed
- at home using a Kodak E-4 developing kit, but this was *much* more trouble
- than most modelers would want to go.
-
- The official reason for its early demise, still lamented to this day, was
- that the small electric motor it used went out of production. However,
- in a conversation with Mike Dorffler (the designer) he revealed that the
- product was killed by a combination of events that occurred over a very
- short (2 month) period in early '74: the motor went out of production,
- Eveready stopped making the tiny "N" batteries, Kodak changed the formula
- of the film which couldn't be accommodated by the custom lab doing their
- processing and, the coup de' gras, a technician dropped the mold for
- making the custom lens.
-
- Many Cinerocs are still flown today nearly 20 years later. The size "N"
- alkaline batteries, much better than the original carbon-zinc ones that
- Estes supplied, are widely available now; and the new film stock (which
- is available off the shelf, not special order like the one Estes originally
- chose) is sharper and less grainy than the old stuff. Both of these
- actually make for easier and better Cineroc results today than when it was
- first introduced. You do still need a custom film lab to deal with the
- nonstandard lengths of 8mm film, however.
-
- Astrocam 110 - Another Estes product and something of a combination of the
- previous two. Reverting to the still format, the Astrocam was designed
- around a stock 110 cartridge. It took multiple shots per roll of 400
- speed color print film, but still only one frame per flight. The lens
- looked out through a hooded mirror (like the Cineroc) but this time looking
- forward (like the Camroc). Image quality was marginal due to the plastic
- lens and small format, but the film can be developed anywhere (although the
- prints are reversed). A very long lived product, it lasted from it's 1979
- introduction until early 1992, and literally thousands are still in use.
- A late rumor has it that Estes may bring it back in early 1993 due to
- public demand.
-
- Other commercial camera payloads - California Consumer Aeronautics (San
- Diego, CA) sells a very small Super 8 movie camera suitable for HPR
- payloads, but it's not a ready-to-fly system. Cotriss Technology (San
- Jose, CA) specializes in rocket photography, and sells a complete HPR
- still camera system (including rocket) called the Observer.
-
- Note: I have not had dealings with either of these companies. Proceed
- at your own risk. Address and phone info in the "address" section.
-
- 4.1.2 Homebrew cameras and techniques:
-
- Still Cameras
-
- Historic - The earliest hobby type rocket with a camera was reported on
- in the March 1983 issue of _The Model Rocketeer_ (the predecessor to
- AmSpam) in the article "King George VI's Rocketeers." As Chris Tavares
- (cdt@sw.stratus.com) reports: "A school group in Scotland formed what
- is possibly the first model rocketry club [in the late '40s - JH]. Of
- course, there were no commercial model rocket motors available, but they
- used pennywhistle fireworks motors. The group's advisor designed and flew
- a camera-bearing rocket with which he took several photos of a nearby
- loch. The motors were pre-manufactured by professionals, used once, and
- thrown away. The airframes were designed by the modelers, and made out
- of paper and light woods. It's as valid an implementation of 'model
- rocketry' as what goes on today in eastern Europe."
-
- According to Stine (Handbook, 2nd Edition) the first true "model rocket"
- (in the NAR Safety Code defined sense) camera payload was flown by Lewis
- Dewart in 1961. Lewis simply strapped a tiny Japanese novelty camera to
- the side of a model. The shutter was tripped by the nose cone separating.
- Shortly after that, Dennis Guill upped the sophistication by taking the
- shutter and lens of a similar camera and mounting it on a plastic tube
- that just fit inside a rocket body tube with the lens facing forward. It
- used sheet film cut into a circular negative and the cocked shutter was
- released by a lanyard (a shoelace!) at ejection (sound familiar?). It was
- an aerodynamic nightmare, but Estes saw enough promise to develop it into
- the Camroc.
-
- Current - The present wealth of lightweight, autowind cameras on the market
- makes it relatively easy to design a sequence camera that shoots a whole
- roll of film on a flight. A crude-but-effective setup was developed by
- Peter Alway and described in Vol 3, No 2 issue of _T-5_ (the HUVARS
- newsletter). Peter took a cheap autowind 110 camera and came up with a
- simple arrangement of a motor, a stick and some bits of wire to repeatedly
- trip the shutter. This setup was flown on an "E" motor.
-
- A similar, but more sophisticated, system was detailed in the March/April
- 1992 issue of AmSpam. Steve Roberson designed his system around HPR to give
- him power to boost a high quality 35mm camera to significant altitudes. He
- took a relatively expensive Olympus autowind camera and triggered it with a
- very solid (but simple) cam-and-lever mechanism. A nice feature of this
- camera is that it automatically rewinds the film into the can at the end of
- the roll which would enhance its survivalbility in the event of a crash. A
- tribute to Steve's design and flying skills is that the camera and rocket
- were retired, intact, after 22 High Power flights (H & I motors).
-
- A recent variation on this theme was flown by Bob (I forget the last name)
- at NARAM 34 last August. He had found a brand of compact 35mm camera which
- comes equipped with "sequence" mode (i.e. it keeps shooting at ~1 fps as
- long as the shutter is pressed). Additionally, the shutter is electronic so
- that all it takes is a contact closure to activate (no more moving parts).
- Bob had switches at several places on the rocket to trigger the camera
- either as it cleared the launch rod, or at payload separation. He also used
- a recovery harness to keep the lens pointed at the ground during descent.
-
- Another very involved HPR camera project by Ray Dunakin was covered in
- four parts (and counting) by _The Tripolitan_ over the first 4 issues
- of 1992, but is too involved to even summarize here.
-
- Several r.m.r readers have announced projects to convert cheap film-box
- cameras into payloads, but none have posted their results yet. One
- ambitious soul (name please!) is even attempting to add film advance/shutter
- trip mechanism to make a sequence system. We'll keep you posted.
-
- Movie Cameras - The first model rocket movie camera was flown by Charles & Paul
- Hans and Don Scott in 1962. A heavy spring-wound Bosley 8mm camera was
- crammed into a payload section and lofted by an early "F" motor. The story
- is still recounted by Stine in the most current edition of the Handbook.
- (Note: Paul Hans currently works for ISP/Aerotech).
-
- Due to the greater difficulty of adapting a movie camera, and relatively
- easy access of Cinerocs, not too many homebrew movie cameras have been
- flown, compared to still cameras. I'd be happy to include documented
- examples here, if you send me the references.
-
- 4.1.3 Video
-
- This is a brand new area with much work going on, but only
- a few successes to report. There are two ways of returning video from
- a rocket: record and transmit.
-
- Record - Following the lead of film cameras, attempts have been made to
- fly stripped camcorders (using HPR, obviously!) to record the flight
- while on board. Video tape recording, however, is a very delicate
- technology and the accelerations encountered in rocket flight jiggle,
- dislodge and otherwise move the tape all over the recording heads in
- a disruptive manner. To date, I have only one report of someone making
- this work. Stu Barrett (barrett@add.itg.ti.com) reports: "At a recent San
- Antonio Prefecture launch, Randy Reimers (an expert video technician) had
- a Sony camcorder with the camera separated from the transport via a wire
- harness. He had the transport installed so that the tape was vertical to
- the ground. That seemed to keep the tape on the tape heads. He did say
- that under the acceleration of a K550, there was a slight herringbone
- pattern on the tape during the boost that he attributes to vibrating tape
- due to high G's. The J415 did not have this phenomena."
-
- [Moderator's note: Both Stu and I agree that this sounds sideways. One
- would think that the tape transport should be positioned so the tape runs
- flat (WRT the acceleration) over the heads. What can I say? This guy is
- the expert and he got results - JH]
-
- Transmit - Transmitted video has had more frequent success, but complicates the
- process by adding a whole new technology. While the components that ride
- in the rocket have no moving parts, you must add transmitters and antennae
- to your vehicle, plus receivers and recorders to your GSE. License-less
- video transmitting is allowed by the FCC, but the power limitations raise
- more problems. Omni directional transmit antennae are easy to track, but
- the signal strength drops off *fast* (inverse square law). Directional
- antennas concentrate the signal, but require that you track the rocket, or
- hope that it doesn't go too far off course!
-
- A good, but somewhat superficial, article on transmitted video appeared
- in the July '92 issue of _73 Amateur Radio Today._ Being a radio hobby
- magazine, it concentrated on that aspect (and assumed you know a bit
- about it) and left the rocket parts at sort of the gee-whiz level. The
- system transmitted with 6 Watts (the developer was a licensed ham) and
- returned a good, clear picture to an altitude of 1,200 ft. The rocket
- was an HPR (no details given) but this was just the checkout vehicle for
- the transmitter hardware which is slated to go into an LOX/Kerosene amateur
- rocket with a design altitude of 200,000 ft.
-
- Additionally, the HUVARS group is working on this technology, plus the
- _Tripolitan_ is promising an article on the subject RSN :-)
-
- Commercial - Hans Schneider (Plainsboro, NJ) runs a rather crude ad in the
- _Tripolitan_ offering an HPR based B&W video broadcast system (including
- rocket) for a hefty $385.
-
- 4.2 Data Gathering Payloads - The payloads covered in this section come
- the closest to the "real" kind in purpose. The whole reason for launching
- professional rockets is to return information from a place that is difficult,
- dangerous or even impossible to visit first hand.
-
- The earliest data gathering payloads in model rockets were pretty crude. The
- only way of returning the data was to send the recording media up with it.
- Thus we had peak-reading accelerometers consisting of a spring mounted weight
- scratching a line on some graph paper, peak-reading dial or mercury tube
- thermometers, peak-reading manometers and...well, you get the idea :-)
-
- It wasn't long before advances in electronics, namely small and cheap
- transistors, made it possible to launch radio transmitters to return data
- from the whole flight (not just the peaks) to the ground for later analysis.
- Now only the sensors had to fly while the recording and analysis equipment
- could stay on the ground (again, much like the "real" thing).
-
- The astounding recent advances in electronics and computer science have
- brought us full circle. The absolutely unforseeable (at the beginning of
- the hobby) degree of miniaturization in electronics has once again allowed
- us to launch the recording media, but now it's in the form of a full blown
- computer system small enough for even modest model rockets to loft. Rather
- than getting one crude data point per flight, we can get hundreds or even
- thousands while doing the analysis right on board!
-
- 4.2.1 Transmitter
-
- Historic - According to the Stine Handbook, the first purpose-designed model
- rocket telemetry transmitter was designed by Bill Robson and John Roe.
- The unit broadcast on the Citizen's Band and was first publically flown
- at NARAM 2 in 1960. It was a simple multivibrator that put out a continuous
- tone which could be modulated by a sensor, but what to do with the wavering
- tone it sent back was left as an exercise for the reader :-) Stine still
- includes the schematic for this device in the current edition of the
- Handbook, although he finally admits to it being "a very old design."
-
- Foxmitter - Using the same basic encoding principle (and still broadcasting on
- the Citizen's Band), Richard Fox designed the "Foxmitter" which was described
- in the May thru December '69 issues of the old _Model Rocketry_ magazine. An
- improved version, the "Foxmitter-2" was detailed in the June '70 thru Jan '71
- issues of that same journal. The thing that made it an advance over the Roe/
- Robson design (and the reason it took so many issues to describe) is that the
- Foxmitter used a basic transmitter module into which multiple sensor modules
- could be plugged (one at a time). The sensors covered included a basic tone
- module (for tracking purposes), temperature, humidity, acceleration and even
- a microphone!
-
- In some related articles in the Aug/Sept '70 MRM, Alan Stolzenberg used the
- Foxmitter as the basis for his "Bio-1" design which involved a very clever
- respiration sensor to monitor the flight subject from order Rodentia (see
- Section 4.3 below). This was, of course, before launching mammals and other
- higher orders fell into disfavor in the hobby.
-
- Transroc - In a case of deja-vu all over again, Estes took a well developed
- homebrew design, in this case the Foxmitter, and turned it into a commercial
- product. This time, they also borrowed a page from the Heathkit notebook
- and let the customer do the assembly (it was also available pre-assembled).
- Like the Foxmitter, the Transroc used sensor modules to let you mix 'n match
- the parameters you wanted to measure. Available were the basic beeping tone
- module (aka "Rocketfinder" mode), a temperature module, spin rate module and
- a microphone module.
-
- The Transroc announced the beginning of the Estes "Rocketronics" line with
- its introduction in 1971. It also quietly marked the end when it disappeared
- with the 1977 catalog. Note: The current "Transroc II" sold by Estes is NOT
- an RF transmitter! It is an audio beeper designed to help you find your model
- after landing. It can be heard by the "naked ear" several hundred feet, but
- that can be extended by using the ground unit which is a highly directional
- microphone with a narrow pass filter on an amplifier.
-
- Adept Rocketry in Broomfield, CO mentions "Telemetry Transmitters/Receivers"
- in their magazine ads, but this is all I have on the product.
-
- 4.2.2 Data Logging
-
- Historic - The rise of the microprocessor coincided almost perfectly with
- my hiatus from the hobby. If anyone out there has documented examples
- of the first micro-p to be flown in a model or HPR, send it to me and
- I'll include it here.
-
- Homebrew - The October 1990 issue of _Radio-Electronics_ magazine had a very
- long and detailed article by John Fleischer on an altimeter payload based
- on a solid state pressure sensor. The system consists of three parts: an
- analog board with the sensor and signal conditioning, a CPU board and a
- display module. The latter stays on the ground and can read out the data
- in either selected peaks (shades of the beginning!) or do a 1/4 speed "slo-
- mo" playback of the entire flight. The article contains schematics, parts
- lists and even board masks for etching your own.
-
- Commercial - Along with all other aspects of the computer industry, small
- "garage" type companies dominate the computer rocket payload industry.
- Following are a few data logging payloads that I have information on.
- As usual, caveat emptor:
-
- Flight Control Systems of Camp Hill, PA sells a very sophisticated
- system called the FP1 (Flight Pack One) Data Logger. This consists
- of a complete computer system on a 1.6" wide x 11" long board into
- which the sensor board plugs. The system not only logs data from the
- sensors, but comes with a development system so that you can write your
- own programs to start/stop data logging based on time or other flight
- events (e.g. staging). The ground support software (all PC based) is
- quite extensive consisting of archiving software (to connect the FP1
- to your PC) and data analysis software to crunch numbers once it's
- there. The standard sensor board has altitude/ velocity and temperature
- sensors on it, but they also provide a prototype board for designing
- your own. The sensor board can be remote mounted from the CPU board.
- Price for the FP1, sensor board and software is a rather substantial $300.
-
- Some other companies producing data logger payloads (on which I have no info
- outside of their ads in the magazines) are:
-
- Transolve Corp, Cleveland, OH - Sells the "A2 Micro Altimeter" which sounds
- like a production version of the _Radio-Electronics_ system described above.
-
- Adept Rocketry, Broomfield, CO - Has quite a line of electronic products
- including peak reading & continuous altimeters, and on-board computers.
-
- Finally, we have from the r.m.r address list the following entries of which I
- know even less:
-
- Langley Autosystems in Sunnyvale, CA is listed with "Datastick on-board
- computer"
-
- High Technology Flight in Ypsilanti, MI sells "Electronic Payloads".
-
-
- 4.2.3 Sample collection
-
- This final type of data collection is practiced
- only rarely by professionals. True, some satellites are designed to be
- returned for study (the LDEF is a notable example), but outside of Earth
- orbit, the only unmanned "sample return" missions have been some moon rocks
- brought back by the Soviet "Luna" series.
-
- I have only one documented example of sample collection by model rocket.
- In the anthology "Advanced Model Rocketry" complied by Michael Banks,
- there is an entry by Eric Nelson describing a system used to collect
- atmospheric pollen and spore samples. It used an Estes Omega to loft a
- sampler consisting of a hollow nose with a clever arrangement of springs
- and marbles acting as check valves.
-
- 4.3 Bio-payloads
-
- The official position on biological payloads can be
- summed up in one word: "Don't." The perfectly reasonable rationale
- here is that this is an educational hobby and you really aren't going
- to learn anything new by torturing your pet gerbil or lizard to see
- if he'll survive (and if he doesn't, how will you know what killed him?
- Launch shock? Burnout deceleration? Recovery deployment? Impact?)
-
- With that disclaimer out of the way, though, we must admit that there
- are other reasons for launching living things, as any 10 year old can
- tell you. If you have to do it, though, try to stay outside your own
- Phylum :-) No one's going to get too upset if you launch a few plant
- leaves (Some HPR guys even use lettuce as recovery wadding) and few
- are going to risk the hypocrisy of objecting to a gastropod-naut after
- killing hundreds of them with snail pellets the week before.
-
- Be careful if you start venturing into the Chordates, though. While
- I'm sure there have been more rocket riders from Class Insecta that
- all other bio-payloads combined, stay out of Vertibrata. Anything with
- a backbone is a definite no-no.
-
- 4.4 Novelty Payloads
-
- This section is the catch-all for everything else
- your rocket might carry outside of its own structure. If you can think
- of a broader category for some of these things, let me know and I'll
- consider re-arranging it.
-
- 4.4.1 Contest Payloads.
-
- NAR standard payload - It wasn't long after the founders of the hobby had
- the propulsion and airframe parts of the system sorted out that they
- wanted to do "something else" during contests. Thus was the idea of
- lofting a "dead" weight born. The first NAR standard payload was a slug
- of lead 3/4" in diameter weighing 1 oz. Later, this was changed to being
- a cylinder filled with sand. The official description (from the Pink book)
- reads: "The standard NAR model rocket payload is a non-metallic cylinder
- filled with fine sand, with a mass of no less than 28 grams [1 oz]. This
- cylinder shall be 19.1mm [3/4"] in diameter and 70mm in length."
-
- Tripoli water payload - As with everything else in HPR, their standard contest
- payload is larger than life :-) They figured that if the standard NAR
- payload is one ounce, then the standard Tripoli contest payload should
- be one pound. Rather than using lead or sand, though, they upped the
- difficulty by using water. Also, there is no standard container for the
- water, just a requirement that the airframe be 2.25" diameter at some
- point and be able to hold 16 fl oz of water. The payload compartment is
- weighed both before and after flight to make sure that you didn't leave
- any "vapor trails" during flight. One added wrinkle is that everyone must
- use the same 36" chute, one of which is provided to each contestant.
-
- Eggs - According to Stine, the idea of flying raw eggs is attributed to
- Captain David Barr of the USAF Academy in 1962. Originally, this was used
- as a qualification test to see if you had the skills to launch a biological
- payload with a good chance of getting it back alive. It quickly took on a
- life of its own, so to speak, as a competition. The "official" raw egg is
- described in the Pink Book as: "a raw, USDA Large hen's egg with a mass of
- no less than 57 grams and no more than 63 grams, and measuring no more than
- 45mm in diameter."
-
- 4.4.2 Ejecting payloads
-
- Generally speaking, the hobby discourages ejecting
- things out of your rocket (other than the recovery system, of course!)
- so as to not appeal too much to the "warhead" mentality that we run into
- all too often. However, there is great crowd pleasing effect to be had
- in dropping a bunch of colorful "ejecta" for everyone to chase.
-
- Versions of this type of rocket have been around for some time. Plans
- for a "concept" rocket called "The Purple People Eater" by Ken Brown were
- published in the December, 1980 issue of _Model Rocketry_ magazine. The
- model drops various types of streamers and "flutterers" at ejection. A
- larger version of this model was flown by Chris Tavares off of NARAM 34's
- sport range last August.
-
- Expanding on the concept, the "ZIA Spacemodelers Sport Design Notebook"
- compiled by Tom Beach contains a design by John Pratt called "Bombardment."
- Capitalizing on various novelty toys available on the market, this model
- carries three foam gliders (Guillow Co. "Delta Streak") as parasites and
- has a modified egg capsule crammed with all sorts of goodies. Included are
- three "Pooper Trooper" parachuting army figures, six "Re-entry Vehicles"
- made from strips of trash bag taped to rubber washers and a hand full of
- "Penetration Aids" (black confetti) thrown in for good measure.
-
- Once again Estes came along and formalized the idea with a production
- version they call "Bailout". This is nothing more than a wide diameter
- rocket with a body tube big enough to hold an action figure (e.g. GI Joe).
- The kit includes an extra parachute for the figure, but you have to supply
- Joe. Despite the appearance, the figure does *NOT* leave via the "hatch"
- on the side. That's just a decal. He ejects out the top with the regular
- recovery system. Reports on r.m.r of success with this model have been
- mixed, mostly because the recommended "B" motors are awfully wimpy to loft a
- 100+ gram model (Joe usually prangs before his chute unfurls), and the
- recommended "C" motor is the "CATO-master" C5-3.
-
- Speaking of CATOs, Estes also has a model of the same name which sort of
- fits in this category. While it technically doesn't eject anything, it
- does break apart in the air and comes down in pieces.
-