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- From: c34657b@saha.hut.fi (Tuomas Viljanen)
- Subject: Re: Bosnia & Hercegovina
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.155345.9027@nntp.hut.fi>
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- References: <BxsB95.37D@well.sf.ca.us> <1992Nov16.182413.24371@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 15:53:45 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.182413.24371@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> velde2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Velde Francois) writes:
- >In article <BxsB95.37D@well.sf.ca.us> dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood) writes:
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- >Note that Croatia has on its flag an escutcheon bearing chequey Argent
- >and Gules, dating back to the 16th century, but also used by the
- >Croatian puppet regime in 1941-45, hence some bad feelings in this
- >notoriously sensitive region.
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- These arms date, in fact, to the Tsar Kolyman, back to the 12th century
- (if I remember correctly). They are also known as "the arms of Ustasha"
- after the Croatian puppet regime 1941-45, but they are much older.
- Correect name ought to be "the arms of Kolyman".
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- BTW, in my previous posting I mentioned the last Hochmeister oft the Teutonic
- Order to be Konrad von Hohenzollern: in fact, he was the Prussian Landmeister
- (the Order still exists !) or Land Master, and his name was not Konrad, but
- Albrecht von Hohenzollern.
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- ++ Tuomas Viljanen ++ For a battle like Crecy, you do ++
- ++ Lahderanta 20 A 19 ++ not need a military genius like ++
- ++ SF-02720 Espoo FINLAND ++ Edward III. All you need is an ++
- ++ 358-0-592175 or c43657b@saha.hut.fi ++ idiot like Duke of Alencon. ++
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