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- From: velde2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Francois Velde)
- Subject: Re: Balkanic Heraldry
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.150451.27575@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
- Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
- References: <1992Nov17.234416.1413@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> <1992Nov20.111731.3403@odin.diku.dk>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:04:51 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov20.111731.3403@odin.diku.dk> klaus@diku.dk (Klaus Ole Kristiansen) writes:
- >velde2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Francois Velde) writes:
- >
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- >>Steiermark, Vert, a goat clymant Argent, armed and tongued Gules.
- >
- >Are you sure this is a goat? I have seen it used as an example of
- >the heraldic panther. (The panther, like the tyger, is a monster.
- >They are not at all like the real-life animals with similar names.)
-
- Right you are. I blazoned this one from sight, and the illustration in
- the encyclopedia was not very clear: it looked like a goat.
-
- It's indeed a panther, which Neubecker defines as the body of a lion,
- the head of a bull, the front legs of a griffon, and the hind legs of an ox.
- It also throws flames out of its mouth and ears. Neubecker states that it
- is peculiar to Steiermark (Styria) and the area around Konstanz (Constance).
-
- The Oxford Guide to Heraldry has a very different representation of a panther,
- closer to the animal by that name, with spots. This may be a divergence of
- English and continental usage.
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- Francois Velde
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