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- From: robertw@hpcvusd (Robert B. Williams)
- Newsgroups: rec.boats
- Subject: Re: Unstayed Rigs
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.200605.18256@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com>
- Date: 23 Nov 92 20:06:05 GMT
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- #DRIFT-OFF
- While I'm not really a fan of freestanding masts, I do have an experience
- to relate in their defense.
-
- I teach a sail cruise class in Corvallis. We do a trip at the
- end of the class where we charter several bigger boats (35-45') in the
- Puget Sound and go sail for a week - in March. Several years now one of
- the boats has been a Freedom 36. The crews like or hate it depending on
- how much they like to pull strings. There's practically nothing to do,
- compared to a traditional (big headsail) boat. (Tacking!.. Just a
- minute, let me get my drink and sandwich!)
-
- One year in particular, I had a Sweden 38, and a good friend of mine (Hi
- Jay) had the Freedom. On the last day of the trip, we beat out of Friday
- harbor up Upright Channel into about 15 kts, which was right near the
- top end of the Sweden's roller furling 150%. The seas were a little
- lumpy, since we were with the current. The Freedom got a little head
- start, maybe 1/8 mile. It took me the whole length of Upright Channel
- (8-10 mi) to grind 'em down. (Finally put him away on the last tack
- when he overstood the point.)
-
- Now Jay is almost certainly a better racer than I (we've crewed together
- on several different PHRF boats) and the Sweden's sail's were pretty
- old, and I suspect it's bottom was pretty ugly. Also I only had a crew
- of 4 smallish bodies, and the Freedom had 6 big guys out there on the
- rail. Just cruising, remember? (yeah, yeah, excuses for the lame...)
-
- The Freedom pointed within 5 deg of the Sweden, and was certainly faster
- out of tacks (no jib to grind in). I think the waterline length is
- similar, since the Freedom has very plumb ends, and it's proabably a
- couple tons lighter. Once we got the jib in and everything tweaked up
- and I really concentrated on the helm, the Sweden was a little faster,
- especially in adverse wave action.
-
- You could see the top of the mast on the Freedom moving around, but not
- alarmingly. It is true Freedom warrants their mast against failure. I
- belive the only ones that have fallen down did so as a result of impact
- with a bridge or the like.
-
- I think there was an incident when they sailed without the jib. It really
- destroyed the boat's windward ability, much to everyone's surprise. (That
- jib is REALLY tiny compared to the main.) I'd guess the slot on the lower
- half of the main is important because of the large chord of the main,
- and the wind velocity differential nearer the water.
-
- --
-
- Robert Williams robertw@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com
- HP in Corvallis Oregon
-