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- From: ghee@vision.larc.nasa.gov (Terry A. Ghee)
- Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
- Subject: Re: Multiplying in the Backcountry (kids/population)
- Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:59:10 GMT
- Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
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- Greg Jahn writes:
-
- It always amazes me how stubbornly us more digit-head oriented folks
- hold onto our theories, suppositions and methodoligies in spite of the
- obvious. Science is a religion, no way around it. It sure seems to me
- that everywhere I've gone there are more people now than before,
- I've certainly seen very distintive changes here, both in town AND
- in the backcountry ... in particular the biggest impact seems to be on
- the edge of the backcountry, where recently new locals and folks from other
- states can take their babies camping. More rules, more rules enforced, less
- options ... the FACT is population HAS profoundly affected the entry
- points to roadless backcountry here in Idaho. So, who cares what the
- statistics and population models say? LOOK AROUND!
-
- I grew up in the northeast (upstate New York), and if anything the population
- up there has gone down (at least in the county I grew up). Also I was travelling
- in Iowa last April and I heard on the local radio that Iowa's population was migrating
- to other states. The inner cities are also losing a sizable population to the
- suburbs. What does this all mean? Should I perceive that the population is
- decreasing every where? Certainly not because I would be basing my facts on
- insufficient data. I can not base the population trends on the United States
- on how much a county in Colorado or New York has grown or shrunk. I need the
- total picture. I also feel uneasy about expousing the view that having less
- or no children would solve the back country's problems. Life is not that simple. I
- personally am not expousing that everyone should have more children or less.
-
- Just a question, has the increase in the use of the back country been at the same
- rate as the increase in the U.S. population? If this increase in usage is greater
- than the increase in U.S. population what do we do and does the belief we have too
- many people having large families a valid concern? Do we solve the problem by making
- everyone move back to the cities and not visit the woods except on special occasions?
- Do we raise the admission to NP and NF so high that only the rich can go there? If
- that happens can we expect the rest of the population to fund NP and NF (just for the
- record, I personally would like to see the usage fees go up to a more reasonable admission
- price).
- Lest I be misunderstood, I am not intending to flame anyone (and if I have offended
- I extend my apologies), I just think the issue of back country overuse is very
- complicated and that people with large families are not necessarily the problem.
- I agree that the third world countries have an overpopulation to what they can
- handle but I'm not sure if the U.S. "problem" is due to population demographical changes
- or overpopulation. I do know that I don't have the answers (and probably never will).
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- Terry Ghee
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