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- From: hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal F Lillywhite)
- Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
- Subject: Re: Multiplying in the Backcountry (kids/population)
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- Date: 19 Nov 92 16:15:59 GMT
- References: <Nov18.173330.55951@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <10782@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> <Nov18.214814.69046@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
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- In article <Nov18.214814.69046@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
-
- >The world population has been growing monotonically since day one of
- >human history. How is this a short term question? I think we are
- >over-analyzing.
-
- Wayne, your zeal is commendable but I'm afraid in this case it is
- not matched by your knowledge. Your statement above is quite wrong.
- World population has not grown monotonically but has fluctuated up
- and down (albiet with a generally upward trend). Visit a library
- and read the "Population" article in Britannica's _Macropedea_.
- Among other things you will find there a graph of world population
- over about the last 8000 years. It oscillates about a slowly
- increasing trend until the advent of the plague when it takes a
- sharp downturn. Thereafter it takes an even sharper upturn with
- the industrial revolution.
-
- Of more value in terms of long term population growth, you will find
- another graph showing birth and death rates for developed and
- undeveloped countries. The area between the birth and death lines
- represents population growth. Undeveloped countries continue to
- have large positive growth rates. However in the developed
- countries the birth rate is dropping rapidly. The 1985 date of this
- publication still shows a positive growth for developed countries
- but a simple extrapolation shows what our 1990 census already told
- us: Death rate now exceeds birth rate, at least in the U.S. (and I
- suspect in Western Europe as well).
-
- >The point I'm trying to make is that it is our problem no matter who's
- >fault it is. It's a lot easier to worry about recycling aluminum cans,
- >and stay oblivious to the fact that a billion more people will be added
- >to the population in the next 10 years.
-
- Right. And it's easier to pontificate about how everyone should
- have fewer children than to examine the available data to determine
- how to motivate them to do so. Obviously something in developed
- countries leads to a lower birth rate and that something is missing
- in undeveloped countries. We've said it before here, to lower the
- birth rate:
-
- 1. Provide convenient means of contraception, and
-
- 2. Assure a good chance of survival for children which are born, or
- provide other means for parents to be supported in there old age so
- they won't have to have a lot of children to support them.
-
- If you want to reduce the birth rate, forget the preaching and worry
- about economics.
-