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- From: christos@wucs1.wustl.edu (Christos Papadopoulos)
- Subject: Re: Keeping Your Watercooled VW cool.
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.003738.8775@wuecl.wustl.edu>
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- References: <921116.085913.amiller@almaden.ibm.com> <1e95p6INN51b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:37:38 GMT
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- In article <1e95p6INN51b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
- >
- >In a previous article, amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller) says:
- >
- >>Running the fan all the time would lengthen the time it takes
- >>for your engine to reach normal operating temperature - during
- >>this time your performance will suffer and you'll pollute more.
- >
- >ok boyz and girlz..not to argue either view point, as i find this
- >to be fairly informative, and i have my opinions, but no specific
- >reazonz for what i do..so..i want a question answered...see..i
- >would argue (if i were arguing) that what brother miller has said
- >above is not true, as this is what the thermostat controlls...
- >if the water is being coooled too much by a constanty running fan,
- >the thermostat does not open as much....this is why trucks, and
- >various other vehicles of even today that have the fan attached
- >directly to the crank manage to still warm up,etc...like i said,
- >though, i am not sure that this is how a thermostat works...can
- >anyone help me here?(sorry A. Miller, but i just have to ask this
- >but do not wish to dispute what you have said, so please, not to
- >take this as a personal flame!)
- >thanx one and all!
- >DREW
-
- I too think that Alex's reasoning maybe flawed during
- correct engine operation. Let me explain: In VWs (and most
- cars for that matter) there are two passages that circulate coolant
- through the engine: (1) through the radiator, and (2) through a bypass
- hose. The latter completly bypasses the radiator and is used when the
- engine is cold. This allows the engine to rise to normal operating
- temp very fast. After that the thermostat opens slowly letting in cold
- coolant from the radiator. As the temp keeps rising the thermostat opens more
- allowing more coolant from the rad to circulate through the engine.
- Finally, all of the coolant flows through the radiator and the bypass
- hose is bypassed. Thus the expansion of the thermostat accomplishes
- two different things: (1) opens the radiator passage, and (2) closes the
- bypass hose passage. The two are complimentary, i.e. when one is fully
- open the other is fully closed and vice-versa. The water pump is unaware
- of which passage is used.
-
- If the fan runs constantly it cools only the radiator coolant
- during startup, thus not affecting the rate the engine warms up. As
- Drew pointed out, the only side effect is that the coolant in the radiator
- gets colder, but this simply causes the thermostat to open less, thus
- still maintaining the correct engine temp. However, it is possible that
- there might be some coolant leakage from the radiator during warmup
- if the thermostat is old and does not seal very well, in which case running
- the fan constantly will cause slower engine warmup.
- Alex's point is valid in this case.
-
- Hope this helps.
-
- Christos.
-