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- From: sankar@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Sriram Sankar)
- Subject: How anti-lock brakes work (may start an interesting discussion)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.183531.24876@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
- Originator: sankar@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
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- Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:35:31 GMT
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- I recently browsed through the discussion on wanting to disable anti-lock brakes, but
- did not pay as much attention as I should have. But then I got thinking about how
- anti-lock brakes really work, and realized I have this whole bunch of questions.
-
- I'll use my car as an example - a Saab. Its got anti-lock brakes, I believe on all
- four wheels. Its got three hydraulic circuits - one for each front wheel and one for
- the rear wheels. The anti-lock brake algorithm gets input on the speed of each wheel
- about 12 times per second and uses this information to determine if a wheel is skidding.
- At some opportune moment (don't know exactly when), it decides to start pumping the
- brakes on the wheel that is skidding. Now suppose one of the rear wheels is skidding,
- say I'd driving on an icy road and one rear wheel is on ice and I apply the brakes. So
- that wheel skids. Suppose the computer decides to pump the brakes on that wheel. How
- does this affect the braking of the other rear wheel which is on the same hydraulic
- circuit? (and possibly on asphalt, so far from skidding).
-
- So now I have the following questions:
-
- 1. At what point does the brake pumping start?
- 2. Can the pumping be isolated to just one wheel and leave the braking effect on other
- wheels as is even if they are on the same hydraulic circuit?
-
- Now lets go to another car, say an Accord EX, Civic EX, Integra GS, etc. that have anti-
- lock brakes. Some of these cars have drum brakes on the rear wheels, some have all four
- disk brakes.
-
- So questions:
-
- 3. Do drum brakes have the anti-lock feature?
- 4. Do cars differ in the number of wheels on which anti-lock is supported?
-
- Suppose these cars have only two hydraulic circuits and the answer to question 2 above
- is NO. Suppose one hydraulic circuit controls the front right and the rear left wheels
- while the other controls the front left and rear right wheels (like many cars do).
- Which leads to a question:
-
- 5. How many hydraulic circuits do these mid-range cars have?
-
- To continue, suppose one of these cars is driving on an icy road and its right wheels go
- into the shoulder which is icy, and the brakes are applied. Both the right wheels skid
- and the other two wheels are still firmly gripped in asphalt. What if the right wheel
- brakes are pumped by the anti-locking feature? This effectively causes all four wheel
- brakes to be pumped (note I assumed answer to 2 was NO). My guess is that this will
- severely decrease the braking effect as compared to not pumping the brakes at all.
-
- 6. Do you believe this?
-
- So in conclusion, I hope experts in this area start posting informative messages!
-
- Sriram.
-