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- Subject: Re: the five doctors
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.102704.351@rivers>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 10:27:03 -0600
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- > When the second Doctor and the Brigadier are in the tower, they
- > come across holograms of Jamie and Zoe. The Doctor realizes that
- > they can't be real, because they have been sent back to their own
- > time stream with their memories erased, and therefore would not
- > remember him. (Of course, he ignores the fact that they could
- > have been timescooped from before there memories were erased,
- > but that's easily ignored; he assumes they would have told him
- > about the experience.) The problem is, that right after (and
- > I mean immediately) they are returned to their time, the TimeLords
- > force a regeneration on him; he now lookes like Jon Pertwee. :-)
- > [This happened in WarGames]. The point is, he did not do any
- > travelling in the TARDIS, with the face of his 2nd regeneration,
- > after learning what happened to Jamie and Zoe. He should not
- > have known! Furthermore, either he is scooped when he is
- > travelling with them (so they should be with him), or he is
- > scooped before he knows them (and he should not recognize them).
- > It is this assumption that he knows everything that has happened
- > to him later that is inconsistent. (I mean, if he can't even
- > remember being there previously as the First Doctor, and can't
- > remember that it is a trap that Borusa should be caught in, as
- > the First Doctor deduces, then how can he remember something
- > that hasn't happened yet?)
- >
- > Anyone want to explain this one?
- >
- > From Neal Smith (nsmith@tms390.micro.ti.com)
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- Sure thing. A real pleasure fella!
-
- We also know from dialog the Second Doctor has with the Brigadier that
- he does now in "The Five Doctors" recall the events that happened
- in "The Three Doctors," as they say "Don't forget Omega."
- Also in "The Three Doctors," the Doctor all make mind-links at various
- times in the story for rapid communications between the two or
- three. It seems logical to me that during these communications,
- the Second Doctor could take a nanosecond to ask the Third if Jamie and
- Zoe are alright or what happened to them or why the Third seems to
- have blocks on his time travel knowledge....etc.
- So, that is when the Second could have learned of Jamie and Zoe's
- being sent home and memoryu erasure.
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- Steven.K.Manfred
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