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- From: jason@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Jason Rosenberg)
- Subject: Re: Induced voltages
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:50:01 GMT
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- Carlos Eberhardt <eber0005@student.tc.umn.edu> writes:
-
- > I recently read in a response to a post that induced voltages are
- >believed to be the cause of hole-in -the-head. I am assuming that these
- >voltages are caused by the electric motors in powerheads and power
- >filters (by the coils used to drive the motors?).
- >Is this a good assumption?
-
- Yes, most people have measured between 70-120 Volts AC, at 60Hz (the frequency
- of wall outlets).
-
- >If so, then what is the theory behind grounding a tank?
-
- You put a grounding probe in the tank water, and connect a wire to it to
- the ground screw on your wall outlet (make sure your wall outlet is properly
- grounded, many older houses don't have properly grounded outlets). The
- probe then bleeds off the voltage by conducting a very miniscule amount
- of current to ground. The tank water should drop to or near 0VAC. The
- probe must be a good conductor, and be non-corrosive. The only commercially
- available one I've seen is made of titanium.
-
- I don't completely understand the mechanism which causes hole-in-the-head.
- However, it appears to caused by some sort of infection (bacterial? parasite?).
- But it appears that the induced voltages cause the fish's resistance to
- such infections to be weakened. The head and lateral line of many fish
- serve as sensor organs for detecting very minor fluctuations in ambient
- electromagnetic potential. They become over-whelmed when in the artificial
- aquarium environment. These organs become overly stessed and the resistance
- to disease decreases. Be advised, however, that I am mostly aware of
- the issues relative to Marine aquaria.
-
- Below, I've included the text of a message I sent to another fellow netter.
- I've answered some of the other question you may there. I am very interested
- in this approach, and would like to hear more about other's experiences with
- grounding their tanks. Especially, it would be good to hear from freshwater
- experimenters out there. Personally, it has worked well for my striped
- damsels....
-
- Jason
-
-
- ****
-
-
- Don't ever expect your local fish stores to ever have any clue about
- equipment. You can mail order it. Check ads in FAMA (Freshwater and Marine
- Aquarium Magazine). If you don't have an issue, write back and I'll send
- you the address/phone numbers of some of the locations. Should be around
- $30.
-
- The problem with making them is that it must be a good conductor, but be non-
- corrosive in salt water. Solution Ground is made out of titanium. It's just
- a probe in a plastic sheath, with a small titanium tip exposed. You then
- connect the wire to the ground screw on your wall outlet. Apparently, there
- are grades of stainless steel that are supposed to be non-corrosive, but I'd
- be very careful with it! You want the probe to be as small as possible and
- still be functional. Also, if you have access to an AC voltmeter, it might
- be a good idea to measure the induced potential in your tank to see if there
- is a problem. Then if you ground it, you can see that it is working.
-
- I really think your better off just buying the darn thing. Unless you have
- a free source of titanium.
-
- The evidence that it works is based both on magazine articles and netter's
- experience. Several people have reported good results with it. Some people
- find that it doesn't always cure HLLE (Head and Lateral Line Erosion), but it
- definitely stops its progress and new cases don't usually crop up. There was
- an article in Marine Fish Monthly (I didn't see it myself) which did a study
- with blue tangs (the most notoriously susceptible fish to HLLE). They had
- a tank full of blue tangs, with a grounding probe. They left it in for
- a few weeks, the fish were fine. They took it out for a few weeks, the fish
- started fading around the head. They put it back for a few weeks, the fish
- healed. They took it out, the fish relapsed....It seemed pretty convincing
- to me (and I only heard about the article....). It has worked with my
- damsels almost completely....
-
- Jason
-
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-
-
- >(I guess this may be more of a question for an
- >electrical engineer, but aquarium folks often end up being biology smart,
- >so why not eletrical?).
- > Also, is there a way to build your own grounding device? I've heard one
- >can be bought for about $30, but if I can build one cheaper, I'd like to.
- > Responses directly to me are preferred, but if this topic seems
- >interesting enough, you may want to post to the board.
- > Thanks in advance for any responses!
-
- >Carlos Eberhardt --------> eber0005@student.tc.umn.edu
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