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- From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
- Subject: Re: "Monsters Among Us", Frontlines, November 10, 1992, PBS
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.153606.22013@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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- Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
- References: <1992Nov13.222605.11058@hellgate.utah.edu> <1992Nov14.172053.16077@leland.Stanford.EDU> <By2K9M.399@NCoast.ORG>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 15:36:06 GMT
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- In article <By2K9M.399@NCoast.ORG> cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton) writes:
- >
- >1. A "distasteful" practice between two equals, able to contract more or less
- >on the same level to agree to engage in same.
- >
- >2. A "distateful" and HARMFUL practice between a superior and and inferior of
- >vastly different bargaining strengths, one of whom has vastly superior coercive
- >power over the other.
-
- Until recently, it was commonly felt that homosexuality was a HARMFUL
- practice as well. Today we know better. Perhaps tomorrow we'll know
- better and think that adult-child sex is fine as long as the child
- gives consent.
-
- I personally think that any law that establishes the age of consent at 18
- is as crazy as a law that makes it illegal for two men to consent to each
- other. I'm not sure where I'd set the age of consent, maybe somewhere like
- 14. But where I personally would set it is somewhat irrelevant since these
- are the sort of decisions that get worked out in the state legislature.
- Just as the legal status of homosexual acts are.
-
- >Child molestation on the other hand is a predatory relationship between a
- >strong and a weak party. The potential for TANGIBLE harm in this case is FAR
- >greater than could ever be possible in the former one.
-
- Child molestation is. Of course. That's why we call it molestation. But
- I'm far from convinced that every occasion where an adult and a child
- consent to sex is predatory or bad for the child.
-
- >The contrast is between a practice which in some people inspires disgust,
- >versus a practice which HARMS a disadvantaged, NON-consenting participant.
- >The province of law should be the latter, not the former. To include the
- >former invites government intrusion into every activity from break dancing to
- >literature.
-
- The province of the government should be the latter IN YOUR OPINION. And
- frankly, in my opinion as well. But when we have a government that
- intrudes into the personal question of what kinds of vegetable matter
- I can legally smoke and under what ground rules people can consent
- to have sex (an agreement that involves money is illegal) and a
- government which intrudes on what one consenting adult is allowed to
- pay another consenting adult for a day's work, then I think it is pretty
- clear that the province of the government is the former, just as much
- as it is the latter.
-
- >I'm much more afraid of government intrusion than I am of ANY
- >homosexual I've EVER met, or am likely ever to meet.
-
- Hey, me too. Considering that government intrusion concerns me a great
- deal and homosexuality does not concern me at all, this is pretty
- much a no-brainer.
-
- Now if we can convince enough other folks to go along with us, we'll
- get laws that fit in with our beliefs. And if we don't, we won't. That's
- how the political process in our society works.
-
-
-
-
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