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- From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd
- Subject: Re: Solaris 1.1 vs. Solaris 2.0 (BSD vs AT&T)
- Date: 15 Nov 1992 20:23:43 -0500
- Organization: There are no pods!
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- References: <kzin.721442926@cc.gatech.edu> <BxLz6x.EL7@cs.uiuc.edu> <1992Nov13.232053.7061@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> <1992Nov15.014513.28154@nobeltech.se>
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- In <1992Nov15.014513.28154@nobeltech.se> ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson) writes:
-
- >This might be true, but SunOS 4.x is not dead, and has a very large installed
-
- I hate to say it, but SunOS 4.x is going to be dead very soon. Inside
- and outside of academics I see everyone gearing up for SunOS 5.0.
- Software developers are saying that they're supporting 5.0. Long-term
- planners in the software business are assuming that by the time Solaris 2.2
- ships, everyone will be running it."
-
- It's scary.
-
- I was recently talking to someone that I have a lot of respect for.
- He's a real old-world techie from the old school of Unix and he was
- talking about a total upgrade to 5.0 in his shop in a time-table that I
- thought was unbelievable (i.e. soon).
-
- I grabbed him by the shoulders and shook him. "WHAT ARE YOU SAYING???"
- He looked at me, there was no sparkle in his eye anymore. He just
- stared blankly at me, as if his eyes weren't focusing on me, but about
- 4 feet past my head. In a monotone voice he said, "Oh Tom, face it.
- We all know it is the direction that we will all take. Sun is
- providing such excellent tools for porting to Solaris. Their new
- machines only run 5.0. We should all..."
-
- "YOU'RE A POD, AREN'T YOU? They've eaten your BRAIN HAVEN'T THEY???"
-
- "Tom, join us and you'll see that..."
-
- At this point I started to run. Suddenly out of nowhere there were
- thousands of people chasing me. They all had the same blank look on
- their faces. Some of them held press releases of the SPARCServer 2000
- and were saying, "It's not vapor, Tom, really!". Some of them had
- strange looking boxes with them and were chanting, "It's not 3 years
- late, we just wanted didn't want the Viking to ship until we could pick
- the right color!"
-
- Finally, after chasing me for hours I got tired and they caught
- up to me. After being locked in a room, I heard the guards talking
- about my appointment with Sun's VP of "Re-Education". Mr. PipelineTool
- himself.
-
- I wouldn't have escaped if I didn't think quickly. I pulled out my
- Auspex manual guide and showed it to the guards. One was knocked
- unconscious immediately. Then I pulled out my pocket "vi quick-
- reference guide" and held it at the other guard.
-
- "BILL JOY DID THIS TO US!!! HE CREATED VI AND THEN WENT ON TO CREATE
- SUN TOO! DON'T YOU REALIZE WHAT EVIL YOU WORK FOR???"
-
- At that, the guard responded, "Hey man, I'm just a consultant! You
- can go for all I care. I can get a job at my brother's deli. I don't
- need this [deleted]!"
-
- And that's the end of my story.
-
- As a post script, I just want to say that part of this story fiction
- [it wasn't a vi quick-reference manual], but a lot of it really is
- true. SunOS 4.1.x is dead. Software developers are blindly porting to
- Solaris 2.x. Why? Because Sun is giving them really good tools to
- port to Solaris 2.x (the PipelineTool). Users are switching to it.
- Why? The software is becoming stable and new Sun machines won't run
- anything else. Worst part is, Sun knows the biggest issue is speed and
- they're tuning the hell out of it and it will be as fast as 4.1.x very
- soon. Heck, even if it isn't as fast we'll never know because of the
- shift to new hardware.[*]
-
- Pessimistic? Me? Nah. This happens in the computer industry all the
- time. #1 falls under it's own weight, or some tides shift more than
- expected. In the final analysis, we find that "we" (the techies)
- always adjust. We need our jobs and we work on whatever hardware and
- software the job adverts are telling us we'll work on. On the bright
- side, competition has never been stronger among Unix vendors and the
- demands of competition will most likely improve other aspects of the
- Un*x OS's so much that we'll forget about this.
-
- Just watch out for the pods.
-
- Tom Limoncelli
- [ Not speaking for my employer or any of my associations, or my cat. ]
-
- * -- If the comparisons are always on SPARC 2's Sun can always claim
- that the newest releases really only help multiprocessor machines which
- don't run 4.1.x, so a apples-to-apples comparison can't be done. Sadly,
- this is likely to be true.
- --
- Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)
- Reality is stranger than fiction #943247: The IRS granted
- ANS approval as a 501c3 "charity" on September 14, 1992.
-