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- From: ellens@bnr.ca (Chris Ellens)
- Subject: Re: Upgrades not limited to si's?
- Message-ID: <ellens-191192085850@47.220.2.151>
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:08:00 GMT
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- In article <chips-091192131141@maverick.wr.tek.com>, chips@tek.com (Chip
- Schnarel) wrote:
- >
- > Look people, do you really know what you're doing when you modify your
- > machine? Are you considering the consequences? I'm not flaming those
- > who've performed the upgrade, indeed I may perform it myself when my
- > warranty expires. But this whole-sale discussion of sticking a new crystal
- > in anything should be couched in extreme caution. (I'm NOT picking on
- > Chewy, I'm talking about this whole thread.)
- >
- > I've been waiting for someone with manufacturing experience to speak up,
- > but since no-one has I'll stick my feet into my own mouth.
- >
- > If you choose to upgrade your crystal speed, by all means go ahead, but
- > before you make that decision, consider the following.
- >
- > Electronic circuits are designed with a particular clock speed in mind.
- > Some margin is built into these designs. The need for margin comes from
- > two primary sources. 1) The speed of each component varies from machine to
- > machine. Margin assures that the worst possible combination of components
- > still works. 2) The speed of all the components within a system varies
- > with changes in temperature and powersupply voltage. Margin assures that
- > the machine still works under the worst possible combination of influences.
- >
- > In manufacturing, the product is tested, typically over temperature. On
- > the old compact Macs this used to be a twenty-four hour burn in. I don't
- > know what they do now. When you modify your Mac do you test it for
- > twenty-four hours? Do you test it over the whole temperature range?
- >
- > If you don't, you might create a Mac that works fine right now, but gets
- > flakey next summer when the room temperature is eighty degrees. Or a Mac
- > that gets flakey as the components age and the individual timings shift
- > slightly.
- >
- > This thread began with a discussion of Apple designing to 25MHz but
- > shipping at 20MHz. Maybe so, maybe not. Who knows? I do know that the
- > CPU in my Mac is labeled -20 not -25. Same with the FPU. So at least two
- > critical components are not rated for this speed. Also, the manufacturing
- > process tests at the operating speed, not the design speed. No
- > (production) Mac IIsi is tested at 25MHz until you do it yourself. Let's
- > say you modify your machine and it works. It may be that you have removed
- > most of the margin and that it works right now, but if anything else
- > changes, you have no margin in reserve. Your machine will become flakey or
- > might just die.
- >
- > It's your machine. Do what you want with it, but make your decision from a
- > position of knowledge.
- >
- > Chip
- >
- > BTW - Rosin core solder is hydroscopic. That means that over time it soaks
- > up water and becomes slightly conductive. At 50MHz this can (and HAS in my
- > experience) effect operation. I hope that you have all cleaned the rosin
- > off with alcohol before you replace the board.
-
- I agree with Chip in that anyone embarking on a hack of their valuable Mac
- hardware should know what they're doing. I hope that all of the warnings
- posted here on the net (such as Chip's point about rosin core solder) don't
- discourage people from such hacking.
-
- A few decades ago, nobody who knew anything about cars drove a stock model
- off
- of the dealer lot. Customization to enhance performance was half the appeal
- of
- owning one. I hope I never see the day when computers are so perfect that
- we
- just let them sit there and run. So keep posting the warnings, caveats, etc
- -
- lets all learn from each other and see what we can come up with. (Hmmm.. do
- you think I could get a little more muscle out of my LC if I machined the
- cylinder heads...)
-
- Chris Ellens
- ellens@bnr.ca
-