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- From: pooler@vccsouth15.its.rpi.edu (Robert Peter Poole)
- Subject: Re: XPR mailing list (was Re: XPR-Bidirectional)
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- Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
- References: <69603@cup.portal.com> <1992Nov16.171521.3050@freenet.carleton.ca> <1992Nov19.180933.21281@freenet.carleton.ca>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:52:26 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.180933.21281@freenet.carleton.ca> aa302@Freenet.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond) writes:
- >
- >In a previous article, pooler@vccnw07.its.rpi.edu (Robert Peter Poole) says:
- >>In short: SLIP and DNET (the latter of which is really just a hack, sort of a
- >>poor man's X windows) are not good examples of bidirectional protocols in the
- >>sense that I mean them (that is, sending two streams of data *continuously* as
- >>fast as the modem will allow).
- >
- >
- > Not having ever considered running any of the protpriatary protocols such
- >as Bi-modem/etc, I can not comment on them. When one looks at the modem
- >lights and if one has an LCD display, the actual 'on the fly bps ratings',
- >the assumption that Dnet and SLIP don't 'Pump it up' is one that is easily
- >proven wrong.
-
- This is hardly a scientific way of testing the true bps rate in each direction.
- The formulas used by software and/or hardware for computing bps are usually
- wrong. Ask an engineer.
-
- [crap deleted]
-
- >P.S. I thought your 'plug deleted' was amusing. I'm pushing freely available
- >software, and you seem to be pushing commercial/licence required software.
- >Who is doing the 'plug'? <grin>
-
- Well, considering that I'm pushing a protocol, not the IBM implementation of
- that protocol, I think your argument holds very little water. Your argument
- reduces to pure nonsense if you replace `BiModem' with `Zmodem.' Since an
- Amiga implementation of BiModem is just as easily `freely available' as any
- other protocol (that is to say, it's as freely available as the programmer
- who implements it WANTS it to be), this obviously has nothing to do with money.
- I can't possibly be talking about the IBM implementation of BiModem since that
- simply won't run "as-is" on an Amiga without emulation software or hardware.
-
- See, I'm not pushing commercial/license-required software. In fact, I'm not
- necessarily pushing anything. But if you had basic reading skills you'd know
- that.
-
- Try telling Chuck Forsberg that Zmodem is free and see what kind of reaction
- you'll get. I'm not exactly clear on the status of Dnet or the particular
- implementation of SLIP you are using, nor do I particularly care. However,
- if someone wrote a SLIP or a Dnet implementation that cost money, would that
- mean that you were trying to sell that person/company's product? Of course
- not, you were promoting a standard, not an implementation.
-
- Incidentally, a `plug' is any instance of promoting anything, not necessarily
- limited to commercial software. You plugged your favorite protocols in your
- post, and I deleted that from my followup because it was a waste of space.
-
- > Russell McOrmond, Ottawa Ontario, Canada | Standard Disclaimer applies.
- > Freenet: aa302@freenet.carleton.ca (Faster) | Current WELMAT 'keeper of
- > Home: rwm@Atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca, 1:163/109 | sources.
-
- R. Poole
-