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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 09:21 PST
- From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: BC Tel Pay Numbers
- Reply-To: John Higdon <john@zygot.ati.com>
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- X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 855, Message 8 of 8
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- andys@internet.sbi.com (Andy Sherman) writes:
-
- > It must be wonderful to be so perfect and smug and sanctimonious. You
- > moan and groan about the upsurge in crime, and about the downsurge in
- > people taking responsibility for their own actions. Yet you
- > consistantly excuse criminals who prey upon an unsuspecting public
- > with tricks such as this and the beeper scam.
-
- Methinks you are being a wee bit harsh on our Moderator.
- Responsibility is responsibility and demanding it from one group does
- not excuse the actions of another. If I have locks on my doors,
- cooperation from my neighbors, and a state-of-the-art security system
- to attempt to hang on to my toys, this is not a statement of approval
- of the actions of burglars. Rather, I would consider it an adjustment
- to the real world.
-
- Anyone who owns or rents a pager has already progressed to a plateau
- above the buck-novice telephone user. There are people who use pagers
- in lieu of an answering service or secretary (or even a smart
- answering machine) and these people have the responsibility to
- determine the nature and charges for the return calls they make. I
- carry a pager. Do I blindly return calls to every number that appears
- in the display? Absolutely not. And I have a better-than-average
- knowledge of the prefixes and locations in my region.
-
- And concerning systems that dial out such as BBS verification: how
- dare anyone fail to put restrictions and limits in the system, leave
- everything wide open, and then whine and moan about being bitten by a
- scam artist. Really, Andy, what would you say to someone who had an
- EasyHack (r) DISA on a PBX and then cried to your former employer to
- have the $22,000-worth of charges removed? And what makes that
- situation different from the BBS operator? Is the BBS operator
- "excused" because he is "just a little guy"?
-
- And how can any of these observations be construed to be approval of
- crooks and scammers? The fact is that they are out there and must be
- dealt with AT THE PREVENTION LEVEL first and foremost. Demanding more
- laws and punishment is akin to the passage and enforcement of laws
- proscribing the monitoring of cellular frequencies. Crooks and scam
- operators are bad guys; on that point there is no disagreement. But
- concerning the matter of responsibility: It is still ultimately in the
- hands of the customer.
-
- I have a toy "partyline conference" which is free to anyone who calls.
- It connects a number of people together on multiple lines. It is not
- designed to allow anyone to have access to the dial tone on another
- line. BUT, since nothing is perfect including hardware and certainly
- my software, I have taken just a few precautions. The lines are all
- ground start, absolutely preventing a stuck connection from returning
- wide open dial tone to a caller. They all have billed number screening
- for third-party and collect calls. The account is passworded. There
- are even a few other precautions that are not public.
-
- Taking these preventative measures is not a statement, explicit or
- implicit, that I approve of the actions of dishonest people. And
- because I take this responsibility seriously, I can scarcely remember
- a time when any of the nightmares described on this forum have become
- a matter of personal expense or inconvenience. But it is slightly
- irritating to have people excused from responsibility when scum
- inevitably strike.
-
- Rather than demand that "something be done" about crooks by law
- enforcement, it is more realistic to encourage citizens to avoid
- becoming victims.
-
-
- John Higdon | P. O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX:
- john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407
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