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- From: throopw@sheol.UUCP (Wayne Throop)
- Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
- Subject: Re: grounding and the entity/environment boundary
- Summary: finding what's behind that rock
- Message-ID: <721718068@sheol.UUCP>
- Date: 14 Nov 92 02:21:08 GMT
- References: <720937346@sheol.UUCP> <1992Nov9.221842.18550@spss.com> <721458252@sheol.UUCP> <1992Nov13.015532.10022JPII@tygra.Michigan.COM>
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- : From: dave@tygra.Michigan.COM (David Conrad)
- : Message-ID: <1992Nov13.015532.10022JPII@tygra.Michigan.COM>
- : Normally we are able to expand our knowledge according to our
- : curiousity. For instance, if one is really wandering around in the
- : grand canyon, and one wonders what may be behind that next rock
- : outcropping there, well, one can just walk over and look.
- : Not so for an entity depending on information someone else has chosen.
- : There may be a .GIF of the other other side of the outcropping, but
- : there may not, and the entity has no way to affect that.
-
- To me, this seems analogous to a human wondering what's behind that
- rock, but being unable to fit through the only crack which leads there
- to find out. Sure, the human can go and get a long pole and a dental
- mirror, or a fiber optic camera, but then the computer could commision
- somebody to take more GIFs. The two situations don't seem
- fundamentally dissimilar to me (though we see here that the computer is
- at an access disadvantage, along with the resolution, frame rate,
- field-of-view, and other disadvantages already mentioned).
-
- : Imagine that you were trying to get information about a mall from
- : a miniature video camera mounted on the head of a friend of yours
- : walking through the mall. "Why the hell is she spending so much
- : time in this Radio Shack? I wish she'd go over to that Waldenbooks.
- : Ah! here we are. Yes! Come on...no, she went into the music store
- : instead."
- : How might this lack of control over inputs affect the intelligence,
- : consciousness, or personality of an AI or a person, for that matter?
-
- Somebody already mentioned that developmental studies done with cats
- showed bad effects from such a situation. (The situation as I recall
- it was having one kitten tow another around, and showing that the
- towed kitten had sensory problems (as well as the obvious motor
- and sensory/motor coordination problems).
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- Wayne Throop ...!mcnc!dg-rtp!sheol!throopw
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