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- From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
- Subject: Re: Quebec
- References: <BxvutJ.3tp@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.094847.24461@spxtech.qc.ca>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:48:47 GMT
- Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
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- From article <BxvutJ.3tp@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, by beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard):
- > In article <1992Nov17.124928.13635@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
- >>
- >>Denis suggested that the lack of "Native" education in other provinces,
- >>compared to the lack of Cree and Mohawk education in Quebec, makes the
- >>assertion that racism is rampant in Quebec "irrelevant".
- >>
- >>The ROC is doing it, to one degree or another, so we can do it too!
- >>- so to speak. :-(
- >
- > I just mean that the situation in Quebec was better. Now, having Canadians
- > saying that Quebec is racist (what the original poster said) because
- > natives are missing something (if 70% of them have education in their
- > own language the statement is far from accurate) while the situation
- > in there own province is worse, then, I call this either bullshit or
- > Quebec bashing or misinformation. NB Steve is not the original poster.
- >
-
- Thank you for the clarification, Denis, I agree with you.
-
- An expression I recall from my childhood(!):-
- "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones!"
-
- >>In response to being reminded that 12,000 English children are also denied
- >>access to their own (existing!) language community schools in Quebec, he
- >>says that those families came here voluntarily after such rules came into
- >>existence and complain.
- >>
- >>People who think rules are racist or unjust should not complain about them
- >>if they came here after those rules were established!
- >>- so to speak. :-(
- >
- > A Rome, on fait comme les Romains. Surtout si, comme Steve, on est
- > justement venu au Quebec PARCE QUE LE QUEBEC permettait a ses
- > enfants d'avoir une education en francais (puisqu'il avait deja l'ecole
- > en anglais avant de venir) et qu'il a cru au mythe que le Canada etait
- > un pays bilingue.
- >
-
- I have no problem with Denis' comments here, viewed from his perspective.
-
- Living in Quebec is a marvellous way to have one's children learn French
- as a second language and become fluently bilingual (even if it isn't the
- same language as used in France - but then neither is Canadian or American
- English the same as used in England :-) ).
-
- > P.S. Quelqu'un a-t-il tenu le compte du nombre de fois ou Steve
- > nous a livre essentiellement le meme message, ou on lui a repondu
- > essentiellement la meme chose? Est-ce qu'on peut decerner a Steve
- > le trophee du record en fait de plus grande redondance dans
- > l'utilisation du reseau? Ou encore, on peut l'appeler Don Quichotte.
- >
-
- Merci! :-)
-
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- ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale / |||
- ||| Politics in Education in Quebec |||
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