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- From: pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew)
- Newsgroups: ca.politics
- Subject: Re: More Evidence That Homosexuality Is A Result of Child Sexual Abuse
- Message-ID: <197507@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 08:09:51 GMT
- References: <13214@optilink.UUCP>
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- In article <13214@optilink.UUCP>, cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
- [some discussion about child sexual abuse and homosexuality deleted]
- > On the subject of sexual deviance, Haugaard and Reppuci
- > discuss some of the consequences. The first section addresses
- > the question of, "I've been homosexual since before puberty,"
- > claim that has frequently been made:
- >
- > When Gagnon (1965) made an extensive analysis of the
- > Kinsey, Pomeroy, Martin, and Gebhard (1953) data, he
- > compared girls who had experienced ongoing abuse with
- > those who had only one "accidental" abusive contact
- > with a stranger. He found a similar pattern of peer
- > sexual play before the abuse occurred and a higher level
- > of homosexual peer sexual play by the girls experiencing
- > onging abuse once it began.[Haugaard and Reppuci, 71.]
-
- Is it my reading skills, or does this really have nothing to do with the
- question of the "I've been homosexual since before puberty" claim? First of
- all, those claims have primarily been made by men, not women, and yet this
- survey discusses women. Secondly, these are all victims of sexual abuse,
- and yet there are any number of men who have made the claim that they've
- been homosexual since before puberty who were not molested as children.
-
- Unless you pre-suppose that all homosexuals were molested as children, a claim
- that no reputable psychologist or psychiatrist supports, this passage is
- completely irrelevant.
-
- > The list of problems experienced by child sexual abuse
- > victims should sound familiar to readers of soc.motss
- > (and also readers of alt.sex, for that matter):
- >
- > Difficulties in adult sexual adjustment are common in
- > abuse victims. Bess and Janssen (1982) found that 70
- > percent of their sample of ten psychiatric patients who
- > were abused as children, compared with 18 percent of
- > twenty-two non-abused psychiatric patients, reported
- > adult sexual impairment or variant sexual practices
- > as an adult. The impairments included prostitution,
- > no sex during a marriage, ego-dystonic homosexuality,
- > impotence, and transvestism.[Haugaard and Reppuci, 73.]
-
- And once again, unless you pre-suppose that all homosexuals were molested as
- children, this is a completely irrelevant passage which proves absolutely
- nothing.
-
- I'm at a loss here, Mr. Cramer, was this posting supposed to prove anything?
- The first part of the posting at least had a point to make and seemed rele-
- vant. This part, however, does not.
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