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- From: stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead)
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- Subject: Re: San Francisco Earthquake 89
- Message-ID: <51514@seismo.CSS.GOV>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 20:58:52 GMT
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- In article <41245@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, cs65xaq@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Elvis) writes:
- > Interestingly enough, your feeling quakes as you nod off around
- > 4:30-5:00 p.m. may not be a coincedince. The largest probability of
- > earthquakes (please correct me if I misquote fact, or if this is
- > unproven---all you geologists out there)
-
- Ok.
-
- > is when the sun and the moon are re-inforcing each other's pull on
- > the earth. This happens at the new moon (or is it the full moon? or
- > both perhaps?--I think it's both) for a given month. And its at
- > high tide (or is it low tide? or both perhaps? --I think it's both)
- > So this is dusk and dawn (I know its dusk *AND* dawn)
-
- This is indeed wrong. There is no favored time for quakes, and tides have
- been disproven to have any influence - they are just too small an effect.
- (they have been disproven by taking extensive catalogs of quakes, then
- looking for any clustering around the time intervals of all principal
- orbital elements - no such clustering has been found).
-
- Also, your understanding of tides needs some revision - yes, when the sun
- and moon are in line with the earth (twice a month - both new and full moon),
- the tidal effects are reinforced. However, high tide represents one of
- two effects - the moon pulling directly on the water closest to it, or the
- moon not pulling so much on the water directly opposite it. So high tide
- at new or full moon occurs at noon and midnight. But not quite. Since
- the tides are essentially very long period shallow water waves in the oceans,
- they experience drag. Thus the tides lag behind the moon a bit. This also
- means that the moon gets to pull on the oceans at an angle, thus directly
- opposing the drag, rather than just lifting the water. Anyway dawn and dusk
- would be low tide for a full or new moon. dawn and dusk would be high tide
- at the half moon (again, not quite).
-
- The tides in the solid earth (the solid earth tide is about 1 foot - that
- may seem like a lot until you think about the earth's diameter which is
- 42 million feet. That one foot tide is the result of the moon's gravity
- acting on the entire thickness of the earth) do not lag like the ocean
- tides do.
-
-
- --
- Richard Stead
- Center for Seismic Studies
- Arlington, VA
- stead@seismo.css.gov
-