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- Subject: Re: husband/wife scientist team
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.123052.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 15:00:52 GMT
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- In article <9211162144.AA09003@net.bio.net>, N052FG@TAMVM1.TAMU.EDU (Marivonne Rodriguez) writes:
- > I have a general question concerning husband/wife teams obtaining individual
- > tenure-track positions at a given dept.
- >
- > I know of a case where the husband had a tenure track position, and to this
- > day the wife has yet to be offered such a position in that dept. even though
- > openings have come and gone for which she would have been perfectly suited.
- > Their rationale is that they have one of the 2 in the couple, so the other one
- > is undoubtedly going to be present as well (she has had a non-tenure, research
- > scientist position for quite a while there) so theyd rather invest their
- > resources in a new aquisition (quote, unquote, I cant do quotes on this keyboar
- > d!!) to their dept. Ironically enough, it has often been her who gets her
- > grants renewed or new ones approved, instead of her husband...
- >
- > How typical/exceptional a case is this??? Any experiences on this subject you
- > all out there might want to share??
- >
- >
- > Thanks in advance,
- >
- > Marivonne Rodriguez
-
- Marivonne -
-
- Two thoughts on this. (1) I think it's true that TAMU is pretty
- unique with respect to a lot of things, including hiring practices. One
- major problem (which I assume is still the same as when I left almost six
- years ago) is the lack of a faculty union, and the pretty open hostility
- of the higher administration towards any move to create one. There is (was)
- also no ombudsman to hear cases of this sort. So there's no real protection
- in the system for people who find themselves in the situation you describe.
- Add to this an extremely paternalistic to chauvinstic 'good ole boy'
- mentality that persists from the all-male AMC days, and you've got a really
- bad environment for hiring/retaining women faculty (I could tell you
- stories - don't get me started!). The problem is not unique to women at
- TAMU - the clear message in many cases is, we've got you at the minimum
- rank and salary we can get away with: if you don't like it, leave. I left.
- (2) Hiring should be competitive, with internal candidates on the same
- footing as externals. It's not reasonable to assume that an internal
- candidate should have first crack at an available slot. Also, perceptions
- of what constitutes the "perfect" candidate in terms of expertise may
- vary between the hiring committe & individual faculty (trying being on
- both: it creates an intersting internal schizophrenia). Unfortunately,
- that perception may also include notions about gender. In other
- circumstances, being an internal candidate may be an advantage - the
- quality of work and compatibility factor are known. Certainly in
- departments with proactive affirmative action policies an underemployed
- women partner will receive a very attentive hearing.
-
- Steve Carr
-