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- From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
- Subject: Re: What an icky, icky movie. SPOILERS
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- Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
- References: <1992Nov17.193048.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:44:19 GMT
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- lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
-
- >*****************************SPOILER ALERT************************************
-
-
- > 2) Gary Oldman. Icky, Icky accent.
-
- Yes. We all know how Romanians from the 14th century are supposed to speak
- anyway, don't we? I thought the accent was fine.
-
- >behind me). I can't remember what I've seen him in before, but I distinctly
- >remember him being better than this.
-
- Try Oswald in "JFK", Sid in "Sid & Nancy", Rosencrantz in "Rosencrantz and
- Guildenstern Are Dead".
-
- > 3) Winona Ryder. I wasn't impressed. Or, to be more specific, I
- >wasn't impressed with her portrayal of Mina. I always thought Mina was much
- >stronger than that; Lucy dies because she is weak, Mina survives because she is
- >strong. I don't recall her EVER being in love with Dracula. (of her free
- >will)
-
- Of course, be accurate to the book and bring out another snore like Nosferatu.
- Do your own interpretation and make something great like "The Shining" or
- "Misery".
-
- > 4) Keanu Reeves. Did a nice job with what he was given.
-
- Keanu was the most pathetic part in the film.
-
- >the only one who thought of the Castle Anthrax when he showed up at the abbey?
- >(you've been lighting the grail-shaped beacon again..)
-
- What a fault. The odds of FCC paying tribute to Monty Python are very small
- here.
-
- > 5) Vlad. No wife that died, sorry. No explanation of how he became a
- >vampire in the book, sorry.
-
- I've read the book as well. I read it before I saw any vampire films. It was
- completely boring. I thought the FCC explanation weaved well with fact and
- was romantically plausible. Of course, if you were directing the movie, I
- would have fallen asleep by the time Johnathan arrived at the castle.
-
- >And (and this is just a little picky thing of
- >mine), he wasn't a member of The Order of the Dragon. His dad was. Nor was he
- >"Dracul", as Hopkins so emotionally yelled. His dad again.
-
- Damn. They should have had you checking the facts for this film. It would
- have made much better lines, "My father was a Dracul and I'm just a lousy bum
- living off his name!" "His father was a Dracul and he was just a lousy bum
- living off his name." Either you have a very dry sense of screen adaptations,
- or a very exciting sense for boring facts. You should also note that Vlad
- didn't live forever and that it is physically impossible to change form. That
- mist, wolf, bat, and rats stuff is just silly isn't it?
-
- >And Dracula in the book was something that you hated or
- >feared, not sympathized with. And certainly not loved.
-
- This has already been done, twice. Nosferatu and Nosferatu (remake). I fell
- asleep.
-
- >romance, I'll watch the Frank Langella version.
-
- Fairly poor romance at that.
-
- > 6) When I start noticing little flaws, that signifies I'm not into the
- >movie.
-
- Nor do you want to be. When you start forgiving nit picks and lose yourself
- in the fantasy, then you start to notice a good movie.
-
- > The first flaw I noticed was that they didn't impale people properly in
- >the opening battle scene. Bad sign.
-
- Prime example. Can you tell us what a werewolf is supposed to look like as
- well? How about the undead?
-
- >A lot of the shots (especially when they
- >were burning the abbey) were quite obviously done on a sound stage.
-
- No kidding? Did you know that FCC was pushing that look to give it the
- emotion of an old-style horror film? Did you notice any of the shadow plays
- and self-opening doors? Did you nit pick about how shadows can't move on
- their own?
-
- > And was I
- >the only one who got annoyed REALLY quickly by the freeze-frame camera
- >tricks?
-
- These were shot with an old camera. Another tribute to the classic style.
-
- >I was in the front row, and almost threw up after they'd used it a couple
- >times. The silent movies were a nice touch-would've been nicer if they were
- >all in BLACK AND WHITE. oops.
-
- You really have no sense of style do you. Maybe FCC should have shot the
- whole thing in BLACK AND WHITE, after all, color film hadn't been invented at
- the time.
-
- > 8) Two other little "book" things. I belive you met the women once in
- >the book. They invite Jonathan to lay down with them, then Dracula bursts in
- >and pushes them away. This may be my memory, but I have no recollection of ever
- >encountering them again. FFC just had to have the whole "gratuitous sex thing"
- >happening, I guess)
-
- Go read the book again. Stay away from any theatrical adaptations. Die in a
- library.
-
- >Also, Dracula didn't want Mina because she looked like his
- >dead wife- he wanted her for revenge.
-
- Also, Vlad wasn't a vampire, Mina never existed, and Romania looks a lot
- better than a soundstage.
-
- > Well. I think that's all the nit-picky things I can remember. I'm
- >very glad they left in the "children of the night" line (even though I don't
- >remember it coming at that particular time)
-
- I await your screenplay with anticipation.
-
- >late-night t.v. and become a cult classic. I just wish someone would come out
- >with a REAL adaptation of the novel. Or at least a truly scary, decent movie
- >that has the vampire as the bad guy. No, Bela doesn't count. (pardon the pun
- >=) ) And Nosferatu was SO long ago. =)
-
- Nosferatu was remade in the same boring style in the early 80's by Werner
- Hertzog.
-
- The comments I've read here all point to, "Not the same as the book," "Silly
- soundstage effects," "Historically inaccurate." What did you people want? A
- PBS style dramatization of the book? How BORING. What I saw was one man's
- interpretation of what has become a large myth. A good one at that.
- --
- What's the frequency, Kenneth?
-
- DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer. Keep it that way.
- Pete Ashdown pashdown@slack.sim.es.com ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
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