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- From: raven@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (System Ninja)
- Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
- Subject: Re: Eric the super annoying
- Keywords: vampire sex
- Message-ID: <R92kuB1w165w@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US>
- Date: 21 Nov 92 09:44:26 GMT
- References: <By1AML.9F8@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
- Organization: "The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California
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- branwen@sage.cc.purdue.edu ( ) writes:
-
- > And with that, I would like to suggest another topic (oh, btw, Flame on
- > concerning vampires. Are vampires impotent (as Rice claims) or are they
- > up and ready, like FFC seems to believe (inferred from the Drac-Lucy coupling
- > You see, at least in the 20th century, vampires and sex have been inseparable
- >
- > Glenn
- >
-
- This depends, as I see it, upon the interpretation by a particular
- author, director, etc. Stoker used vampirism as a metaphor for the
- Victorian fear of sex and venereal disease (a thread furthered in
- the FFC movie, BTW), yet though the blood exchange with Mina, etc.,
- was definitely sexual (driving the stake into Lucy was VERY sexual
- -- go read it, you'll see), but we see no REAL sex in Stoker's novel.
- You'd expect this. Bram Stoker was a sexually repressed man in
- very prudish society. To talk about sex, he had to cloak it in
- parables of good and evil and morality and virtue.
-
- Rice's vampires are undeniably sexual in form, if not in fact.
- For my own fiction, I allow my vamps to be very sexual, though
- often only to lure a meal for the evening. (The vampire
- Weyland in Suzy McKee Charnas' *The Vampire Tapestry* lures
- young men and women this way, with entreaties of sexual
- congress. A very good book, BTW.) Consider oral sex for a moment:
- in the case of fellatio, a great deal of blood flows through
- the engorged, erect penis. Seems a natural feeding site, to
- me. (Who used that? Oh yeah, the book is *Live Girls*. Don't
- recall the author -- oh, Ray Garton! Excuse my stream of
- consciousness.)
-
- Going back to Eastern European superstition and vamp mythology
- -- a subject often very distinct and different from literary or
- cinema vampires -- it was believed that male vampires could impregnate
- mortal women who would then bear children who, after their mortal
- death, would be resurrected as *nosferatu*. Meanwhile, though,
- during their mortal lives, they had unusual powers not unlike
- those of a sorcerer (often they were male, though this could
- just be the reports/tales, skewed in a sexually less-enlightened
- age), and would often be called upon to stalk and stake their
- unearthly undead fathers. Nice kids, huh? (Whatever happened
- to respect for one's parents/elders--? Never mind.)
-
- My view of this sexual question regarding vampires is that it
- all depends upon what the shaper of the myth or story is striving
- for, what effect is hoped for. And really, vampire mythos is rich
- and varied, so there's room aplenty for many differing interpreta-
- tions.
-
- BTW -- be kind to one another. Just because we may discuss evil
- vampires in this newsgroup, that's no reason for us to *act* like
- them...
-
- -- Raven
-
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