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- From: charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Charles Geyer)
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- Subject: Re: Apostrophes in Plural forms?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.173051.21756@news2.cis.umn.edu>
- Date: 22 Nov 92 17:30:51 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov21.211317.14509@news2.cis.umn.edu> I wrote
- (replying to Roger):
-
- Well I guess we have a fundamental disagreement. Most people *do* do things
- out of sheer trendiness. Most bizspeak, entertainment speak, news, etc. is
- little else but trendiness.
-
- In article <1992Nov21.233317.9814@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu
- (Roger Lustig) writes:
-
- > TRANSLATION: "I don't like it."
- >
- > Seriously, can you back this up with an iota of evidence? Can you
- > demonstrate that fashion in word use is not universal, that it does not
- > reflect actual needs or desires to express new things or ideas or
- > relationships? Have you ever studied the development of a new idiom?
-
- Can you demonstrate that it is, and more precisely that trendiness is no
- more important now than in any other time in human history? Can you
- demonstrate that using initialisms for everything does reflect actual needs?
- I can't even imagine what would count as evidence in such a demonstration.
- Studying the development is very different from demonstrating a need -- unless
- you have a hidden panglossian assumption that mere existence demonstrates
- a need. You complained about being labeled "panglossian", but if you have
- any other argument, you haven't stated it.
-
- --
- Charles Geyer
- School of Statistics
- University of Minnesota
- charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu
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