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- From: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
- Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
- Subject: Re: Arguing about language
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- Date: 21 Nov 92 14:51:32 GMT
- References: <1992Nov18.063613.2724@Princeton.EDU> <98361@netnews.upenn.edu> <1992Nov19.232920.25852@Princeton.EDU> <98529@netnews.upenn.edu>
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- Quoting crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) in article <98529@netnews.upenn.edu>:
- >I see your point that belittling or sneering at _people_ who use
- >"non-standard" (isn't that a lovely PC word) English is small-minded
- >and uncool.
-
- Well, non-standard is the right word. If you ignore written language
- and examine only spoken, there's no *inherent* difference between
- Standard English and any given dialect, any more than there's a
- difference between Received Prononciation and a Newcastle accent. It's
- just that one is well thought of and the other isn't. If Glasgow took
- over the world, those of us who use "doesn't" would get corrected, and
- told to use "disnae". And double negatives would be mandatory.
-
- For my part, I don't get particularly wound up by expressions like "She
- don't care." All I ask of people in spoken language is that they make
- themselves clear and know the meaning of the words they use.
-
- I certainly think it's fair to set a much higher standard and expect
- Standard English in written language.
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