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- From: evan@hpl.hp.com (Evan Kirshenbaum)
- Subject: Re: quite unique
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:45:56 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov18.221451.14168@bcrka451.bnr.ca> nadeau@bcarh1ab.bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov18.192304.15503@nas.nasa.gov> asimov@wk223.nas.nasa.gov (Daniel A. Asimov) writes:
- >>Since there are infinitely more real numbers than integers,
- >>perhaps it *does* make sense to say that 1/3 is "more unique"
- >>than the number 2, in the above contexts.
- >
- >Wrong - there are not infinitely more real numbers than integers. If I
- >had my university notes, I could trot out the proof, but in the
- >meantime: there are infinite numbers of integers and of real numbers.
- >"Infinite" being an absolute term, you can't say that one infinite set
- >is larger than the other (and certainly not infinitely larger).
-
- Sigh.
-
- Please be gentle with him; he often says things I agree with :-).
-
- Rheal-
-
- There really are infinitely more real numbers than integers. The
- classic proof is Cantor's diagonalization argument. The set of
- integers has countably many elements (its cardinality is generally
- notated by the Hebrew letter aleph subscript zero [pronounced "aleph
- null"]). The set of real numbers has uncountably many elements and
- its cardinality is equal to that of the set of sets of integers or two
- to the aleph null which is strictly greater. There exist higher order
- infinities as well.
- The set of rational numbers *is* countable and therefore there are
- as many integers as rationals.
-
- It's usually wise to make sure that you're right before you correct
- someone. [Ok, everybody point out all of the mistakes in my
- correction! :-)]
-
- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
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