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- From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
- Subject: Re: quite unique research?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.210423.11779@Princeton.EDU>
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- References: <1992Nov16.035345.9575@Princeton.EDU> <1992Nov16.112547.22880@black.ox.ac.uk> <1992Nov16.143026.23853@news.columbia.edu>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:04:23 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.143026.23853@news.columbia.edu> gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov16.112547.22880@black.ox.ac.uk> microsoc@black.ox.ac.uk (Marc B.A. Read) writes:
-
- >>Just for starters here are the relevant extracts from the Fowlers. Before
- >>you flame me, Roger, I _don't_ think that these are conclusive arguments;
- >>but I do think that they are well written and entertaining even if wrong!
-
- >They are opinions... to some, using unique to mean "one of a kind" is wrong
- >(not me me). To others, using unique to mean something *other* than "one of
- >a kind" is wrong. Except to Roger, of course, who takes certain pleasure in
- >seeking out one scholarly opinion to support his view of the week, and then
- >lambasting the group with invective in trying to defend it.
-
- Stop lying.
-
- I have so far posted *six* scholarly opinions, and have sought in vain for
- one that contradicts my original assertion about "quite unique." Some
- people don't want one to use "more unique," and anyone who wishes to
- eschew that usage is entirely welcome to, but I have yet to hear a
- historically or linguistically informed opinion that tells one that it
- is wrong.
-
- As for lambasting the group, what do you suppose you're doing when you
- tell us that a given usage is "wrong" and then don't give us any way
- fo telling how you came to such a conclusion? I have asked you dozens
- of times about this, asked you to tell me how you know that a meaning
- given in the dictionary is "wrong," and have received only silence in
- return. You're welcome to your opinion, but remember that opinions
- count for much more when supported by argument or evidence.
-
- >>(I'm still shaking at the memory of Roger's flames to this newcomer to
- >>Usenet about "concertize"....)
-
- >A pity, isn't it.
-
- What's a pity? That people can't walk over to the dictionary (or hook up
- with the on-line OED)? That whole issue was avoidable, and the people who
- spoke of that usage as being "depressing," "ugly," etc. might have saved
- their breath.
-
- Roger
-