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- From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
- Subject: Re: quite unique research? (round 1)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.182335.24622@Princeton.EDU>
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- References: <1992Nov15.145943.5614@desire.wright.edu> <1992Nov16.035345.9575@Princeton.EDU> <1992Nov16.094020.5627@desire.wright.edu>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:23:35 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.094020.5627@desire.wright.edu> thayes@desire.wright.edu writes:
- >Honestly, Roger, you have *completely* lost sight of the nature of this
- >posting. I tracked down the summary opinion of "experts" and usage
- >guides and dictionaries. I presented them in a responsible manner, making very
- >few points based on my own opinions on the matter.
-
- Well, you may have presented their opinions, but you didn't give their
- reasons, which are ultimately the things that convince (or not).
-
- >You seem to imply that I have invented these summary opinions to launch
- >an attack. On the contrary, I think some of my findings support your
- >claims *to a limited extent*. But you seem as uninterested in this relatively
- >non-partisan summary as you are in opinions that run contrary to Evans^^2.
-
- Actually, I was grateful for the work you did, and apologize for not being
- explicit about that. I did get suspicious, though, about your
- categorization of the writers as "allowing modification" and "not allowing."
- Seems to me that Fowler and Phythian do allow modification, incl. "quite,"
- which is the crux of our argument, or was once.
-
- >Sure, I could post every motherloving paragraph from each source -- I would note
- >that Mr. Read has posted the Fowler's argument -- but so what? They are
- >there, *you* can go look them up as I suggested if you don't believe me.
- >You already went overboard attacking *me* for the Webtster's usage guide
- >extract that I did post -- now why would I want you to attack me for *other*
- >opinions too? That wouldn't be smart, Roger, you must admit.
-
- Well, it was the only apple in the barrel I could actually taste, that's all.
-
- >RL>Time for a reality check. Are you *honestly* saying that any of the
- >> folks above disallow *all* modifiers for "unique"? Including "really"
- >> and "truly" and "more nearly" and "in some/every sense" and so on?
- >> "Unique" can obviously be modified; the question is: how?
-
- >See Roger? I spent many, many lines of posting explaining the opinions of a
- >usage guide that stated how the modification may or may not be justified,
- >but you have chosen to ignore that.
-
- Sorry, I must have missed that.
-
- >In this matter, sir, you need the reality check.
-
- Post it and I'll apologize most humbly.
-
- Roger
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-