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- From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
- Subject: Re: quite unique
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.031256.6409@Princeton.EDU>
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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:12:56 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov15.194221.19793@news2.cis.umn.edu> charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Charles Geyer) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov15.180410.20206@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu
- >(Roger Lustig) writes (flaming Gabe Wiener):
-
- >> I take it, then, that you've actually looked up "quite" and "unique"
- >> in a dictionary or similar? Again, I refer you to Evans and Evans,
- >> who address the issue directly.
-
- >> Now, having said that, what does "quite unique" have to do with the
- >> "either/or" issue? As I said (and you chose to delete), "quite
- >> unique" can mean: not only unique, but also unapproached. People
- >> don't just use the word "unique" to mean "one-of-a-kind", simply
- >> because such distinctions aren't made often. Teh *degree* of
- >> difference is also of interest in many cases.
-
- >Having once written dictionaries for a living, I don't believe them
- >to be gospel, just the attempts of harmless drudges to get fairly
- >accurate descriptions of what words mean.
-
- Absolutely. But this work should not be discounted, especially with
- dictionaries that involve the fruits of some research into how words
- are actually used. I believe that dictionaries are good sources of
- information when one is wondering about a usage. In any case, dictionary
- data should hardly be discounted automatically.
-
- >Does anyone really use "quite unique" (or "really unique", "truly unique",
- >and so forth) except when trying to hype something? No doubt the pages of
- >Vogue and House Beautiful are full of such usages.
-
- I wouldn't know about those magazines, but I've heard the expression
- any number of times. And, as both Evans*2 and AHD make clear, the
- expression is common enough for certain purists to have made a fetish
- out of.
-
- >Pardon me if I don't want to sound like that.
-
- OK:
-
- 1) You don't know where the expression is used.
-
- 2) You think certain gushy magazines might use it.
-
- 3) On that basis, you decide you don't want to use it, because you'd
- sound like those magazines you don't read.
-
- Is that it? Or is there something else you're worried about?
-
- Roger
-
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