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- From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
- Subject: Re: Programming
- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.181050.24020@ugle.unit.no>
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- Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
- References: <OAHVENLA.92Nov14170014@lk-hp-4.hut.fi> <1e3os6INN7h7@ub.d.umn.edu> <mwm.2n4z@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us> <1e43mkINNler@ub.d.umn.edu> <mwm.2n8f@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 18:10:50 GMT
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- In article <mwm.2n8f@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>, mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:
-
- > These sound like things you want to write games, or to do
- > presentations. They also aren't unique to AMOS; any serious multimedia
- > or presentation tool has those capabilities. I'd be surprised if most
- > of those aren't better for building presentations than AMOS. Guess
- > what that leaves AMOS most suitable for?
-
- Fine. *YOU'D* be surprised. On the other hand, so would a sheep.
-
- > > to compare AMOS to C when it comes to writing utilities (but it still can
- > > be done in AMOS),
- >
- > Utilities can? System-friendly, AUISG-compliant utilities? The
- > evidence indicates otherwise.
-
- WHAT evidence? You're sure as hell not supplying any!
-
- > Giggle. Oh well - I guess that's to be expected if you think that
- > typical AMOS behavior is acceptable.
-
- Oh dear. Not only do we not like AMOS, we also don't approve of C. So, your idea
- of a system-friendly language is what? Machine code (in binary, of course)?
-
- > > AMOS helps by introducing the
- > > concepts of modularity (and if you try to tell me modularity is not an
- > > important concept in programming, go back and retake some CS classes) in
- > > a language that is simple to use and understand while allowing the user
- > > to do advanced features ( psycological reward is important when starting
- > > to program ). I don't think this can be disputed a lot.
- >
- > I don't dispute any of that. However, it's not the only language with
- > those features; and I *know* the alternatives let you build programs
- > that don't have the AMOS bugs. I'm waiting for some one to tell me
-
- Oh, right, *THOSE* AMOS bugs. The ones you frequenty invoke, but never name.
-
- > that AMOS can avoid those bugs (of course, then it gets castigated for
- > encouraging them, but that's a different kettle of fish).
- >
- > > And even if AMOS can't do what you describe above, of what use
- > > is that to a BEGINNER programmer.
- >
- > None, but you were disputing the point that it wasn't system
- > compliant. If it can't do those things, then it's not system
- > compliant. Of course, a beginning programmer should be exposed to
- > proper programming *results* as well as technics. If AMOS can't do
- > what I describe, then it can't do the former.
-
- How many times? It *IS* system compliant!
-
- > <mike
-
- -Eyvind
-
- --
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- // | | I just repeat what everyone else says!
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