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- From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
- Subject: Re: When Food Is Love
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.232742.11565@spdcc.com>
- Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
- References: <63620079@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> <17526@pitt.UUCP>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:27:42 GMT
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- In article <17526@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
- >>She suggested that we really enjoy eating
- >>Eat in a calm place without distractions
- >>Eat anything you want
- >>Eat until satisfied
- >
- >That's exactly what I did for the first 25 years of my life.
- >At the end of that time I weighed 335 lbs and was gaining at
- >the rate of 1 pound per month. Just how long was I supposed
- >to continue trying this method? I think it may work for some
- >people, but for others it is a quick trip to the morgue.
-
- Or a slow one. This is my experience too--I really enjoyed eating, ate
- w/o distractions, ate anything I wanted, and ate until satisfied, until
- I discovered one day that a sedentary lifestyle wasn't a choice
- anymore--I could barely move around anymore without severe distress.
- (You'd wheeze and sweat too, walking down the block, if you were
- carrying 300+ pounds.) Of course, I wasn't a follower of Roth's, it was
- just the way I was: always two helpings instead of one, frequent late
- night snacking, and restaurant meals a lot.
-
- This "Geneen Roth" stuff seems to be particularly attractive to women,
- for whatever reason, I don't know why. I haven't come across a man who
- is inclined to push it. But it's mostly women who seem to be
- brainwashed into thinking that there has to be some emotional basis to
- their overeating and obesity and that "being nurturing to yourself"
- somehow breaks this cycle. Well, maybe it breaks a cycle of dieting
- and regain, and that such folks eventually maintain a higher total
- bodyweight. I'd love to meet someone formerly fat who followed Roth's
- recommendations and became thin, but I'm pretty skeptical!
-
- What's more, I wonder how wise such a recommendation is. It's more like
- giving people "permission" to overeat if they want to. Which is fine,
- of course (hey, I'm an expert!), but there are a lot of people like
- Gordon and myself who would just gain weight far past any safe point.
- Maybe this works for people (who usually turn out to be women for
- cultural/societal reasons) who aren't obese to begin with, just a few
- pounds overweight, and this serves to take the pressure off them.
- Again, I have no argument about that; I just don't think it's going to
- cause weight loss. Whether or not it causes personal satisfaction is
- a different issue.
-
- Even allowing that everyone is different, there's an enormous genetic
- component to body weight and eating behavior; without an imposed
- dietary intervention, identical twins raised apart are usually going to
- look and weight very similar, meaning that one's environment need not
- have a great influence on weight. There's an enormous hormonal
- component to fat deposition and distribution, as I mentioned before.
- In other words, we're stuck with lousy genes.
-
- --
- Steve Dyer
- dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
-